Hi, there are a few tricks to speed it up, but it's ultimately not necessary.. after current story ends you can still free-roam and see all the available content. Only hard-cap is reaching Strength-Level 4 currently.
w o w. You know recently a lot of games went out like this one thanks to AI generation and to be honest, i'm not into AI generated image. Mostly because this is a cheap way to rush a game and deliver something that is either mediocre or left to die.
But here... yeah I got things to say about this game. (Warning, long comment).
About the story
We play as Ginna, a girl who happens to be the child of the world's strongest man (along with Greg her brother).
The dad used to own a gym before his death and Greg took up the buisness while Gina left to live her own life, out of anything concerning working-out and bodybuilding, until her brother ask for help since he's struggling with the managment of the gym. And oh boy what a mess.
A good introduction. An initial situation, an event that disturbs the situation and the begin of the story. Now this sounds usual when you start a story but most of the game I've played recently did not followed this scheme and went directly into the game while giving either too few elements to comprehend the story, or make us read a full novel.
Defenitely a plus on the story side.
About the background, arts and music
I get that you may not have the time to draw all the characters and background, thus why you are using AI generation. I won't talk about the usual vagueness of the character's shape (fingers, eyes, ...). However I'll say that all of the characters have a design unique enough to know which character it is and to like them.
Only black note I would add about characters. You're swapping from real life-ish character design (Gina, Greg, Mike, ...) and goofy characters (The witch, the references in the dojo) and while the goody characters are mostly used to make the player smile, there is one character that looks really out of background and its Xici bodyguard. He looks like a jrpg character, next to "regular" ones and it is kind of out of place.
And about the music, I know its difficult to manage (in the scripts and the game files) but maybe having some musics could be appreciated, or at least sound effects (a crowd walking, some metal noises, things like that). Combine it with a randomizer and it should make the game more immersive.
Overall, its good. But it is even better with...
About the writing
Holy christ this is fantastic.
The way the characters talks is formidable, to the point where I made distinct voices in my head for each characters. Plus the self-mockery of the angel and demon characters and the fact that they often break the 4th wall really made me laugh. And the other media references are really well made. Playing this visual novel really made me forgetting I was playing a fetish game at some points.
This is honestly the strongest point in this game, seriously its really good.
Game mechanics (yeah it's still a game after all)
From what I saw, you got 3 main game mechanics : Point and Click adventure, managment, fights.
The Point and Click is pretty fun. You can do a lot of things to achieve the main goal which is getting b i g. Some exploring features that makes you willing to see more, the storyline in which you got to pay attention to the date. The options are very simple and is limited to click on dialogue when necessary. This may not be the main aspect of the game so it is nota big deal to not improve it further.
Managment is... weird. When I say managment, it is all about the gym. It is kinda sad that you have to wait so long to actually start managing the patrons, gain money from the gym, etc. Would be nice to introduce the gain sooner and then introduce more mechanics later. Right now it is alright, but it can be better.
Fights. It's confusing at first because of the engine limitation but the job is well done. Fights are fun and I'm curious about how you are planning on implementing other party members, abilities and new ennemies. It looks like a recent thing and from what I've played, there is not a lot of things to discuss right now.
Overall this game surprised me and it was a really enjoyable experience (beside all the obvious fetish things). Keep up the good work!
Don't mind lengthy comments at all. I'm a beginner at art- and game design, so feedback really helps me revaluate my choices there. So thanks for both the kind words and the honest critique.
Big thing coming in the next update is (apart from lots of new story-events) the art-redesign. I think I've gotten quite a bit better by now, so let's hope we can get those concerns out of the way at least ;D
Hello, you can speed up the work on the project, I will give you advice, make more content and faster then people will be able to stay in your game, it’s just that after you do so little, people get tired of it and eventually abandon it, so please do it I ask for more and faster, the game is simply wonderful and the capabilities need to be increased in this game, and yes, I once asked a question about the Russian language, so please make it Russian.It’s just that in this, more or less, the Russians will play the game and support you, the point is to support someone who didn’t even bother to make another language (that’s what they told me before), because I ask that in case of itch. io after people who speak English, 2 Places go to people who speak Russian.
P.S. My job is to criticize or offer something to people, something that other people like, my specialty is psychology
While I appreciate the interest and know well that more frequent updates would be sensible, sadly I won't be able to make them any faster. This is a hobby done after my regular job and studies, with me already working on it almost every day.
As for the russian language, there are translation option in Renpy, which I haven't looked into, but this is even something the end-user could do. But I might check it out after I have the most pressing chores on the next update done.
Gina mentions another FMG game (one made with Twine) at some point. Are you referencing a real game there or is it just a joke (obviously just asking out of curiosity)?
Let me satisfy your curiosity. Whole game is riddled with bad references 😅 Both the "Summer Growth Game" and "FMG Life Simulator" for example have been referenced. And I'm REALLY looking forward to do a cross-over with KBro from Bayshore Academy in the future 😁
Sorry man, my old saves are just as broken as yours 😅 This variable handling is a nightmare. I mostly skip through the old known dialogue to reach the old point in the game.
the problem is that they can't complete, for example, I can't convince the blonde woman, or the guy from the rich street, and I can't talk to some people that I need to complete the qvest, and I also can't go to the street where the crimes are
Ok, then this is more complex 😅Most people who asked this just didn't read the quest-log and kept wondering. Ok, if you're interested I will gladly try to fix this.
First, did you start your run on a new safe? I stated that the old saves will cause variable-conflicts and should be avoided. This is another common error people had been facing.
If that's also not the case, can you describe which quest-goals are currently not complete-able?
1 recruit Jade from the gym I can't convince him there and I can't talk to anyone 2 i can't get to the street and beat the boss 3 talk Greg into accepting the woman at the gym
Greetings, for the dojo you need Strength-Level 3 and then you pester Enzi at the gym long enough to tell you its location.
Streets should be accessible once you have Strength-Level 3 and went there twice to craft the disguise. You also need to find your first target by checking the ledgers in the bureau.
I'm generally not a fan of FMG, but I'm really enjoying this game. The characters and scenarios you've written are entertaining on their own. The gameplay elements and decision trees are well done, really one of the best in the VN genre. I'm looking forward to what you have planned for the next update!
Sadly for you, a lot of FMG. It's time for the other girls to start catching up to Gina 😅
But probably a free-exploration of the Streets with endless waves, new events at the dojo and park, few new side characters, main story progression, etc..
I have always a lot planned and then see what's feasible in the end.
One last thing. I actually like how difficult the Streets of rage battle system was. The custom artwork animations too for the boss's skill casting is AMAZING. You really gave it your all. Took me a while to beat the boss but I think I was under-leveled in Dojo Skill. For the future, adding exclusive combo attacks depending on who Gina is with sounds like a really fun idea. For example a move that basically combines Stella's double whip with Gina's Gale Force attack. Some kind of whip tornado that has almost 100% stamina cost but does huge damage.
Fantastic job as always. Outside of Bayshore academy this game is miles ahead of other FMG games on this platform. And it's even better than Bayshore honestly because you wayyy more interesting world building. I came for the FMG but stayed for the world building. It's awesome.
I thought of a feature for your game that I think would be a great add for fmg fans.
A continuously updating size chart. That you can view from the start of the game to the end. Show the relative sizes of the characters compared to one another. Much like the UI artwork that you update whenever Gina goes to train, this is a great thing to add so we can keep track of the scale of everything. For example I can never tell how big Gina is depending on who she is next to. Akari looks absolutely massive next to her, but I don't think the difference is as big
I put a link to an example of an Imgur height chart. Artwork is by Robolord who primarily does FMG but occasionally also does some male muscle growth.
Honestly I worked around proper charts to avoid having to deal with realistic numbers, but you are not the first person wishing for something like this. So lets see..
And thanks for the review on combat. Was the first time I wrote something in python, so I'm pretty happy with how it turned out in the end. Code is still the worst horrible mess imagineable though
1) Whether it's Stella, Aline, or Jade, If you plan on making the heroines more muscular by the end, I strongly recommend you make them all look distinctly unique in terms of body type. Not just all of them having the same amazon frame as Gina. For me that would be boring.
For example I would expect Stella to be thicker and more muscular with a wide curvy frame like a powerlifter whereas Jade being a martial artist, I would expect to have a more shredded muscular frame but also with a less heavy build more suited for not just strength but better agility compared to Gina.
I think having all the girls look distinct and unique in terms of "final" body type is much better than having them all look the same in the end.
2) Can you change or alter Gina's core personality at any other points in the route or does it lock permanently towards one personality starting with the dream?
3) I got the event where I picked up the clown's assistant in the park to join the gym. I know this is ultimately an FMG only game, but any chance you could slightly subvert that genre and grow one of the weak looking guys, bigger and more muscular by attending Gina's gym? I liked his character model, and some of the cool male characters have grown on me. This is my favorite FMG game because the men aren't puny. A stronger women dominating already strong men is much hotter to me than strong women dominating toothpick men.
Great update thanks. There is a bug in the tutorial section of the streets of rage where it crashes during one of the rule explanations.
Hi, nice to hear from you again and thanks for the nice words. I highly value your feedback, helping me to further improve.
So regarding your questions:
1)I want them to have a slightly different look and with my new SD-Setup, Model-Merge and new skills I'm fairly confident I can achieve this now. Stella going for bulk and curves and Jade staying more shredded would indeed fit the characters.
2)You can. Second dream with the nuns gives you the option to change once more. I'll see what the future brings since I'm not sure if update 3 needs another dream (since we get some steamy scene in "reality" now).
3)That random citizen model I used think twice already ?😅 But yeah, dominating a strong guy is cool, especially if Gina worked so hard to achieve the strength to do so. I don't want my guys to be all wusses, just waiting to be overpowered, but have a personality too that isn't reduced to their size and dick. Growing a guy is however very low on my priority-list for now, since we have guys in all sizes around.. Although, one guy more or less incorporating a "player" among the fans of Ginas stream.. eh, I'll think on that, but workload for update 3 is already huge, so definitely not for now.. 🤨
Can you tell me which error was displayed on the tutorial? Want to fix this of course!
Great, professional looking and ultimately sexy update. I especially like all the new expressions you added and the background image of Gina and friends while training. The combat system is a little confusing with the numbers sometimes reversing but the boss design was super cool. Love all of the aesthetics you added to the menus and the dream artwork with Xici was cool. I want her on steroids to be the final boss now. The new characters are fantastic and having Philip as a Tuxedo mask parody is funny but I would like to see him have his moments to look cool as a "support" haha. I also noticed you re-wrote a lot of the dialogue to flesh out the story far more. Lots more juicy world building.
I am going to make another comment now on what I would love to see added in the next update if possible.
Hi, little button top-right with the !/? is your quest-log. Check there if all requirements are met. The green "?" are clickable to give hints on how to complete those quests.
If all requirements are checked growth should happen over the next night. If not, pls write me again and I`ll look into it.
As long as all other requirements are checked, this should lead to the next growth event. But there is a rare bug, only reported by 2 players so far, which I haven't been able to recreate and pin-point yet.
I hope this is fixed in the next update, since parts of the code regarding growth are rewritten, but if not, then I would maybe need a save-file of the faulty state to recreate the error.
Just started playing and noticed an issue that hurts immersion. Greg is described as "towering" but when he's first shown, he's of height with Gina.
Additionally, his head is smaller than Gina's even if their visible heights were adjusted. With illustrated characters, there's the concept "how many heads tall" the character is. It's a useful metric to convey how tall a character is at a glance because a person's head doesn't change much size as they grow. And for a game like this where GAINS are everything, being able to properly compare character sizes is kinda important. Typically, an adult woman would be 6-7 heads tall and a man would be 7-8, but these numbers also depend on art style.
If these portraits are AI generated, I understand there's only so much you can do, but scaling the images so the heads are roughly the same size would go a long way for visual consistency.
Yeah, heigth levels really are a mess, especially on the old images and scenes when I literally had no idea what I was even doing there 😅But I already upscaled Greg a bit in the next version. Wouldn't be fun outgrowing him if he starts so little.
So on the new images I already have a "Size-Chart" in PS, adjusting height and making sure the proportions at least match mostly, but the old ones will only receive a scaling. Not like I'd get my update finished anytime soon if I rework all my old images now extensively.
I'm sorry, it's not in my plans for the near future. I haven't dabbled into the translation function yet and I have my yet many things needing to get finished in the game that take priority.
Hi, news are mostly posted on patreon or my Discord. Depends on how long the image-generation and refinement takes. But I'd say roughly 2 weeks till the next patreon-release and maybe 3-4 weeks till the public then.
Definitely still working on it :D Just a lot of work there
So I've just played the update today, and there is new stuff (i.e. the park, Lucina, etc) however I get to Angel Gregs warning about saves, and then tells me about the second update? Is that it? Didn't recruit stella as a fighter or anything. Didn't go to the next strength level after the out of 24 one, is my game broken or is that genuinely it?
Greetings, I hope the game isn't broken. Unless it's some kind of bug I'm not yet aware of.
Generally speaking, there are evets that trigger through time while others trigger through certain progress. The save warning should mean one thing: There is a time-based event coming up that's planed but not in the game (next Xici-Event I assume), which would add triggers that will miss on a later date then. Any save-game beyond that date will probably cause errors in the next update or have you miss content. You can still continue playing, just not use that save created later on.
If you haven't recruited Stella yet, that means however there is a lot of content left. Reaching Strength-Level 3 opens up many possibilities and activities in the world along with scripted events. Recruiting Stella at the brothel and having reached the Strength-Requirement will check the condition for the next Level.
Thanks for the reply. However the game doesn't allow me to recruit stella? When I've only got to speak to her once more it ends the game telling me about the next update. Any ideas?
Maybe I need to look into this. Never heard of anything like that before. If you'd be so kind, maybe work that problem through with me, since I wanna get any bugs out.
So the game ends? Like forces you back to the main-menu without any error-message?
Does this happen in between any dialogue? Or on the mornings in the apartment? Because the only planned 'back to main-menu jump" would be on the still missing Xici-Event on day 49, giving players the choice to jump to the ending-screen or continue their game for free exploration.
Yeah that was the day and the Xici event. It's became apparent that I've just been a silly goose and started talking to stella too late on in the game. Sorry for wasting your time. Just wanna say that you've made a really high quality game here, and I can't wait for more updates (Hopefully I can figure these next ones out on my own lol) Thanks for the help, would never have figured it out if you didn't say.
Don't sweat it, it's fine. And thanks for the nice feedback. I might expand the tooltips in the quest-screen a bit. To maybe give a little more guidance then. So you did help me after all.
One last thing and I'll leave you alone. Can you consider this suggestion?
My point was that there's FMG, but with Jade it looked like you made her taller, thicker, and with bigger boobs kind of exactly the same as Gina's body type. Given that Jade is the fast martial artist type, I was thinking you could approach her future appearance from the idea of having a diverse range of muscular female body types. So I think that muscled-up Jade would have kind of a female Enzi build. Somewhat slimmer compared to Gina but more shredded.
Her future build something a little bit like this: https://imgur.com/a/iY287gz but obvious you would keep Jade's cuter more innocent characteristics intact.
You´re not bothering me at all. I value your suggestions highly, even if I can´t promise to act upon each of them. Some elements of the game are decided by the patrons and others are dictated by the story-line I thought up, so Jades body-type might not even be a result of her own choice, as her method of growth probably won´t be classical strength-training like Gina. But that´s again a lil bit in the future and since it´s part of the main-story I won´t dabble too deep into possible spoilers.
But I don´t dislike the idea of her having a different body-type and her "innocent characteristics" should try to be preserved regardless of how she ends up. Hopefully my artistic skills are up to that task..
Also saw some of your Jade images in the "work in progress" folder and is that what Jade is going to look like in the future or is that more of Gina imagining things? Because while I'd love to see Jade get more muscular, she is also a teenager and her "future" build looks way more busty, thick and heavy than I feel her type of martial arts would favor? Not to mention in your images, she looks like she's aged about 5 years as she looks a lot taller. I would think she would experience the type of fmg that gives her Enzi's build of being shredded, cut, with bigger biceps, and certainly a bit thicker legs but not nearly as bulky and big breasted as you have her in those preview AI images. I would imagine Jade to look more like this in her future FMG: https://imgur.com/a/e2woP5l I know that this is your 'work in progress" folder but do you plan to change Jade's future FMG build? I kinda like the idea of having different female muscular body types much like the diverse muscular body types your male characters have.
Heh, AishaGreyrat... Thought I´d recognized that name. Good to see you're still kicking :D
So, can't believe I forgot to clear out my work in progress folder the second time before shipping out a version to the public. Kind of a beginners mistake I guess. So take those images, keep them as your "forbidden treasure-trove", but keep in mind that those are "work-in-progress". Some will be used, some are only experiments or pose-references, most will be altered and some discarded.
As for Jade, she will grow later on, that´s certain, but how and how much, that remains to be seen. Definitely don´t want her look too "aged", but that can partly happen due to the changed body-type.
As for romance, if you don´t think Gina is at least a little bit "bi" or maybe interested in her bro, you haven´t paid much attention till now :P
Still writing so many routes will be tedious, so let´s see how far we can go on that. But it is planned to let the player have a few steamy scenes before they would have to commit (or maybe harem-route.. oh the options..). In the next update we could maybe see a cautious start on romance with Mike (I know, who in their right mind would choose Mike, but I have this cute scene in mind that needs to be written) or Jade, as I wanna slowly start with that content.
Any chance you could expand the romance options? You say the right answers with your romance options and accumulate affection points. Each person has a "route" and if you choose the correct answers and end up with one of them you gradually are rewarded with 2-3 sex scenes often paced out evenly in their route. You can do this for Michael, Jonathan and Greg and some of the other men in the series. Or you can even add some of the women as potential romance options. Like a lesbian route.
Also just curious if you're open to an incest route with Greg because you pretty much never see that in any visual novels, especially with a muscular heroine and muscular big bro.
The update info says that you can go up to lvl 3 by now but for some reason it just doesn't go past two in my playthrough (my strengh is at about 55 of the required 24). Do I just have to keep playing, is this intended, is something wrong with my game or is the update info really just about the patreon version (is there even one?)? I could very well imagine that I'm just being impatient or retarded at this point though.
Hi, definitely not retarded. Other people met the same road-block. While the first growth stages are only tied to strength-gain, Lvl. 3 and 4 require some progress in the main-story line as well (just need some story elements presented before my girls get too big, otherwise it won´t make sense later). There´s a little button with requirements in the top-right corner, but for Lvl 3: Check in on Stella at the brothel a few more times.
That´s because of the secret age-check. My program reads your Amazon and PayPal-Details and only grants access to the brothel, if you´re.. :P
Ok, seriously... You need to speak to Mike in the gym. Go through all the dialogue-options. Once he reveals the location to Gina, it can be selected from the city-screen.
Hi, took a while. I might have found a possible error, but I´m not 100% sure. Changed a few things and recompiled. It works on my phone so far, so I hope for the best. Uploaded just now.
Let me know if the problem still persists though. (Although if it does, then I´m truly at my wits end..)
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I always end the story part before having enough stats, is that intended? Do you need to take a very specific path to do it?
Hi, there are a few tricks to speed it up, but it's ultimately not necessary.. after current story ends you can still free-roam and see all the available content. Only hard-cap is reaching Strength-Level 4 currently.
anytime i try to download it says archive is currupted
Weird.. I'll try to reupload them. Tell if it fixes the problem.
yep, now it's fixed, ty.
Hope to see small girls becoming titans!
does anyone know how to progress to the new updates of the game? right now i'm stumped
are we talking about events or strength lvs? For both look at the discord.
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w o w. You know recently a lot of games went out like this one thanks to AI generation and to be honest, i'm not into AI generated image. Mostly because this is a cheap way to rush a game and deliver something that is either mediocre or left to die.
But here... yeah I got things to say about this game. (Warning, long comment).
About the story
We play as Ginna, a girl who happens to be the child of the world's strongest man (along with Greg her brother).
The dad used to own a gym before his death and Greg took up the buisness while Gina left to live her own life, out of anything concerning working-out and bodybuilding, until her brother ask for help since he's struggling with the managment of the gym. And oh boy what a mess.
A good introduction. An initial situation, an event that disturbs the situation and the begin of the story. Now this sounds usual when you start a story but most of the game I've played recently did not followed this scheme and went directly into the game while giving either too few elements to comprehend the story, or make us read a full novel.
Defenitely a plus on the story side.
About the background, arts and music
I get that you may not have the time to draw all the characters and background, thus why you are using AI generation. I won't talk about the usual vagueness of the character's shape (fingers, eyes, ...). However I'll say that all of the characters have a design unique enough to know which character it is and to like them.
Only black note I would add about characters. You're swapping from real life-ish character design (Gina, Greg, Mike, ...) and goofy characters (The witch, the references in the dojo) and while the goody characters are mostly used to make the player smile, there is one character that looks really out of background and its Xici bodyguard. He looks like a jrpg character, next to "regular" ones and it is kind of out of place.
And about the music, I know its difficult to manage (in the scripts and the game files) but maybe having some musics could be appreciated, or at least sound effects (a crowd walking, some metal noises, things like that). Combine it with a randomizer and it should make the game more immersive.
Overall, its good. But it is even better with...
About the writing
Holy christ this is fantastic.
The way the characters talks is formidable, to the point where I made distinct voices in my head for each characters. Plus the self-mockery of the angel and demon characters and the fact that they often break the 4th wall really made me laugh. And the other media references are really well made. Playing this visual novel really made me forgetting I was playing a fetish game at some points.
This is honestly the strongest point in this game, seriously its really good.
Game mechanics (yeah it's still a game after all)
From what I saw, you got 3 main game mechanics : Point and Click adventure, managment, fights.
The Point and Click is pretty fun. You can do a lot of things to achieve the main goal which is getting b i g. Some exploring features that makes you willing to see more, the storyline in which you got to pay attention to the date. The options are very simple and is limited to click on dialogue when necessary. This may not be the main aspect of the game so it is nota big deal to not improve it further.
Managment is... weird. When I say managment, it is all about the gym. It is kinda sad that you have to wait so long to actually start managing the patrons, gain money from the gym, etc. Would be nice to introduce the gain sooner and then introduce more mechanics later. Right now it is alright, but it can be better.
Fights. It's confusing at first because of the engine limitation but the job is well done. Fights are fun and I'm curious about how you are planning on implementing other party members, abilities and new ennemies. It looks like a recent thing and from what I've played, there is not a lot of things to discuss right now.
Overall this game surprised me and it was a really enjoyable experience (beside all the obvious fetish things). Keep up the good work!
Don't mind lengthy comments at all. I'm a beginner at art- and game design, so feedback really helps me revaluate my choices there. So thanks for both the kind words and the honest critique.
Big thing coming in the next update is (apart from lots of new story-events) the art-redesign. I think I've gotten quite a bit better by now, so let's hope we can get those concerns out of the way at least ;D
i've finished the current version and it was very good! really looking forward to new updates.
noticed that in the james interaction where you are supposed to get composure your composure actually gets reset back to 1.
also had a crash when viewing the combat tutorial.
Thanks, I'll look into the bugs you mentioned.
If you ignore those people who want to support you either financially and morally, then you can put an end to your project, honestly
Hello, you can speed up the work on the project, I will give you advice, make more content and faster then people will be able to stay in your game, it’s just that after you do so little, people get tired of it and eventually abandon it, so please do it I ask for more and faster, the game is simply wonderful and the capabilities need to be increased in this game, and yes, I once asked a question about the Russian language, so please make it Russian.It’s just that in this, more or less, the Russians will play the game and support you, the point is to support someone who didn’t even bother to make another language (that’s what they told me before), because I ask that in case of itch. io after people who speak English, 2 Places go to people who speak Russian.
P.S. My job is to criticize or offer something to people, something that other people like, my specialty is psychology
While I appreciate the interest and know well that more frequent updates would be sensible, sadly I won't be able to make them any faster. This is a hobby done after my regular job and studies, with me already working on it almost every day.
As for the russian language, there are translation option in Renpy, which I haven't looked into, but this is even something the end-user could do. But I might check it out after I have the most pressing chores on the next update done.
Thank you, I understand bro, I will find a way to help you with money, it's just that transferring money from Russia to foreign sites is problematic
Gina mentions another FMG game (one made with Twine) at some point. Are you referencing a real game there or is it just a joke (obviously just asking out of curiosity)?
Let me satisfy your curiosity. Whole game is riddled with bad references 😅 Both the "Summer Growth Game" and "FMG Life Simulator" for example have been referenced. And I'm REALLY looking forward to do a cross-over with KBro from Bayshore Academy in the future 😁
Yo is it possible to have a save for the 2nd uptade ? since i mine dosn't work :(
Sorry man, my old saves are just as broken as yours 😅 This variable handling is a nightmare. I mostly skip through the old known dialogue to reach the old point in the game.
Greetings, hope it's just the same problem many people faced. The problem of me not properly describing the game functions 😅
So, little icons top right are the menus. One of them is the quest-menu, telling you which goals you need to achieve.
Ok, then this is more complex 😅Most people who asked this just didn't read the quest-log and kept wondering. Ok, if you're interested I will gladly try to fix this.
First, did you start your run on a new safe? I stated that the old saves will cause variable-conflicts and should be avoided. This is another common error people had been facing.
If that's also not the case, can you describe which quest-goals are currently not complete-able?
Ok i know why, you need to go to the bureau and check the ledgers all the time. This will work for sure cause i was stock at ur same problem.
soo... i am kind of confused what do you do to get access to streets of rage and dojo...
Greetings, for the dojo you need Strength-Level 3 and then you pester Enzi at the gym long enough to tell you its location.
Streets should be accessible once you have Strength-Level 3 and went there twice to craft the disguise. You also need to find your first target by checking the ledgers in the bureau.
I'm generally not a fan of FMG, but I'm really enjoying this game. The characters and scenarios you've written are entertaining on their own. The gameplay elements and decision trees are well done, really one of the best in the VN genre. I'm looking forward to what you have planned for the next update!
Sadly for you, a lot of FMG. It's time for the other girls to start catching up to Gina 😅
But probably a free-exploration of the Streets with endless waves, new events at the dojo and park, few new side characters, main story progression, etc..
I have always a lot planned and then see what's feasible in the end.
That's fine by me. I'm excited to see the other girls grow!
The streets of rage has the most potential for me. With some tuning and incentives to grind, I could have a lot of fun with that.
One last thing. I actually like how difficult the Streets of rage battle system was. The custom artwork animations too for the boss's skill casting is AMAZING. You really gave it your all. Took me a while to beat the boss but I think I was under-leveled in Dojo Skill. For the future, adding exclusive combo attacks depending on who Gina is with sounds like a really fun idea. For example a move that basically combines Stella's double whip with Gina's Gale Force attack. Some kind of whip tornado that has almost 100% stamina cost but does huge damage.
Fantastic job as always. Outside of Bayshore academy this game is miles ahead of other FMG games on this platform. And it's even better than Bayshore honestly because you wayyy more interesting world building. I came for the FMG but stayed for the world building. It's awesome.
I thought of a feature for your game that I think would be a great add for fmg fans.
A continuously updating size chart. That you can view from the start of the game to the end. Show the relative sizes of the characters compared to one another. Much like the UI artwork that you update whenever Gina goes to train, this is a great thing to add so we can keep track of the scale of everything. For example I can never tell how big Gina is depending on who she is next to. Akari looks absolutely massive next to her, but I don't think the difference is as big
I put a link to an example of an Imgur height chart. Artwork is by Robolord who primarily does FMG but occasionally also does some male muscle growth.
https://imgur.com/a/eoLli4H
Your suggestions are good, but they are many 😅
Honestly I worked around proper charts to avoid having to deal with realistic numbers, but you are not the first person wishing for something like this. So lets see..
And thanks for the review on combat. Was the first time I wrote something in python, so I'm pretty happy with how it turned out in the end. Code is still the worst horrible mess imagineable though
Three things I would really love to see added:
1) Whether it's Stella, Aline, or Jade, If you plan on making the heroines more muscular by the end, I strongly recommend you make them all look distinctly unique in terms of body type. Not just all of them having the same amazon frame as Gina. For me that would be boring. For example I would expect Stella to be thicker and more muscular with a wide curvy frame like a powerlifter whereas Jade being a martial artist, I would expect to have a more shredded muscular frame but also with a less heavy build more suited for not just strength but better agility compared to Gina.
I think having all the girls look distinct and unique in terms of "final" body type is much better than having them all look the same in the end.
2) Can you change or alter Gina's core personality at any other points in the route or does it lock permanently towards one personality starting with the dream?
3) I got the event where I picked up the clown's assistant in the park to join the gym. I know this is ultimately an FMG only game, but any chance you could slightly subvert that genre and grow one of the weak looking guys, bigger and more muscular by attending Gina's gym? I liked his character model, and some of the cool male characters have grown on me. This is my favorite FMG game because the men aren't puny. A stronger women dominating already strong men is much hotter to me than strong women dominating toothpick men. Great update thanks. There is a bug in the tutorial section of the streets of rage where it crashes during one of the rule explanations.
Hi, nice to hear from you again and thanks for the nice words. I highly value your feedback, helping me to further improve.
So regarding your questions:
1)I want them to have a slightly different look and with my new SD-Setup, Model-Merge and new skills I'm fairly confident I can achieve this now. Stella going for bulk and curves and Jade staying more shredded would indeed fit the characters.
2)You can. Second dream with the nuns gives you the option to change once more. I'll see what the future brings since I'm not sure if update 3 needs another dream (since we get some steamy scene in "reality" now).
3)That random citizen model I used think twice already ?😅 But yeah, dominating a strong guy is cool, especially if Gina worked so hard to achieve the strength to do so. I don't want my guys to be all wusses, just waiting to be overpowered, but have a personality too that isn't reduced to their size and dick. Growing a guy is however very low on my priority-list for now, since we have guys in all sizes around.. Although, one guy more or less incorporating a "player" among the fans of Ginas stream.. eh, I'll think on that, but workload for update 3 is already huge, so definitely not for now.. 🤨
Can you tell me which error was displayed on the tutorial? Want to fix this of course!
Great, professional looking and ultimately sexy update. I especially like all the new expressions you added and the background image of Gina and friends while training. The combat system is a little confusing with the numbers sometimes reversing but the boss design was super cool. Love all of the aesthetics you added to the menus and the dream artwork with Xici was cool. I want her on steroids to be the final boss now. The new characters are fantastic and having Philip as a Tuxedo mask parody is funny but I would like to see him have his moments to look cool as a "support" haha. I also noticed you re-wrote a lot of the dialogue to flesh out the story far more. Lots more juicy world building.
I am going to make another comment now on what I would love to see added in the next update if possible.
I'm stuck at level 2, 30/24. Please help
Hi, little button top-right with the !/? is your quest-log. Check there if all requirements are met. The green "?" are clickable to give hints on how to complete those quests.
If all requirements are checked growth should happen over the next night. If not, pls write me again and I`ll look into it.
Just finished this recent patch and fantastic work again.
Thanks so much :D
Was a lot of work and hearing that is very rewarding
Where is the download link?
Just replaced the files, adding the new version. Should be all online again
It's here, have fun :D
The discord link js apparently expired could you give me a new one?
Hi, damn links are all limited to 30days.. I'll update it, but here's one for you already:
https://discord.gg/RXGmwXCeB
thx
Ayo put a new discord link
Aye, aye! Thanks for reminding me!
You sure its not a temporary membership link again?
No, no, no, no! I will not make that stupid mistake again 😅This one is good... I hope...
i have strength 34,5-24 and nothing
As long as all other requirements are checked, this should lead to the next growth event. But there is a rare bug, only reported by 2 players so far, which I haven't been able to recreate and pin-point yet.
I hope this is fixed in the next update, since parts of the code regarding growth are rewritten, but if not, then I would maybe need a save-file of the faulty state to recreate the error.
ok ty
Just started playing and noticed an issue that hurts immersion. Greg is described as "towering" but when he's first shown, he's of height with Gina.
Additionally, his head is smaller than Gina's even if their visible heights were adjusted. With illustrated characters, there's the concept "how many heads tall" the character is. It's a useful metric to convey how tall a character is at a glance because a person's head doesn't change much size as they grow. And for a game like this where GAINS are everything, being able to properly compare character sizes is kinda important. Typically, an adult woman would be 6-7 heads tall and a man would be 7-8, but these numbers also depend on art style.
If these portraits are AI generated, I understand there's only so much you can do, but scaling the images so the heads are roughly the same size would go a long way for visual consistency.
Yeah, heigth levels really are a mess, especially on the old images and scenes when I literally had no idea what I was even doing there 😅But I already upscaled Greg a bit in the next version. Wouldn't be fun outgrowing him if he starts so little.
So on the new images I already have a "Size-Chart" in PS, adjusting height and making sure the proportions at least match mostly, but the old ones will only receive a scaling. Not like I'd get my update finished anytime soon if I rework all my old images now extensively.
Awesome. And yeah, completely understandable on the deadline limitations.
Hello, can you add Russian language?
I'm sorry, it's not in my plans for the near future. I haven't dabbled into the translation function yet and I have my yet many things needing to get finished in the game that take priority.
ну ладно спасибо что ответили
Mabel getting bigger then James would be hilarious
"you are getting beaten by a little girl!"
I'm just wondering, when would the next update release?
Hi, news are mostly posted on patreon or my Discord. Depends on how long the image-generation and refinement takes. But I'd say roughly 2 weeks till the next patreon-release and maybe 3-4 weeks till the public then.
Definitely still working on it :D Just a lot of work there
Ok
So I've just played the update today, and there is new stuff (i.e. the park, Lucina, etc) however I get to Angel Gregs warning about saves, and then tells me about the second update? Is that it? Didn't recruit stella as a fighter or anything. Didn't go to the next strength level after the out of 24 one, is my game broken or is that genuinely it?
Greetings, I hope the game isn't broken. Unless it's some kind of bug I'm not yet aware of.
Generally speaking, there are evets that trigger through time while others trigger through certain progress. The save warning should mean one thing: There is a time-based event coming up that's planed but not in the game (next Xici-Event I assume), which would add triggers that will miss on a later date then. Any save-game beyond that date will probably cause errors in the next update or have you miss content. You can still continue playing, just not use that save created later on.
If you haven't recruited Stella yet, that means however there is a lot of content left. Reaching Strength-Level 3 opens up many possibilities and activities in the world along with scripted events. Recruiting Stella at the brothel and having reached the Strength-Requirement will check the condition for the next Level.
Thanks for the reply. However the game doesn't allow me to recruit stella? When I've only got to speak to her once more it ends the game telling me about the next update. Any ideas?
Maybe I need to look into this. Never heard of anything like that before. If you'd be so kind, maybe work that problem through with me, since I wanna get any bugs out.
So the game ends? Like forces you back to the main-menu without any error-message?
Does this happen in between any dialogue? Or on the mornings in the apartment? Because the only planned 'back to main-menu jump" would be on the still missing Xici-Event on day 49, giving players the choice to jump to the ending-screen or continue their game for free exploration.
Yeah that was the day and the Xici event. It's became apparent that I've just been a silly goose and started talking to stella too late on in the game. Sorry for wasting your time. Just wanna say that you've made a really high quality game here, and I can't wait for more updates (Hopefully I can figure these next ones out on my own lol) Thanks for the help, would never have figured it out if you didn't say.
Don't sweat it, it's fine. And thanks for the nice feedback.
I might expand the tooltips in the quest-screen a bit. To maybe give a little more guidance then. So you did help me after all.
Tried to join the discord but it said the link is expired/invalid
Thanks for telling me. Damn link is only ever valid for 30days. Can´t refresh it often enough.
Here´s the new one:
https://discord.gg/cbZvCN3Uf
One last thing and I'll leave you alone. Can you consider this suggestion?
My point was that there's FMG, but with Jade it looked like you made her taller, thicker, and with bigger boobs kind of exactly the same as Gina's body type. Given that Jade is the fast martial artist type, I was thinking you could approach her future appearance from the idea of having a diverse range of muscular female body types. So I think that muscled-up Jade would have kind of a female Enzi build. Somewhat slimmer compared to Gina but more shredded.
Her future build something a little bit like this:
https://imgur.com/a/iY287gz but obvious you would keep Jade's cuter more innocent characteristics intact.
You´re not bothering me at all. I value your suggestions highly, even if I can´t promise to act upon each of them. Some elements of the game are decided by the patrons and others are dictated by the story-line I thought up, so Jades body-type might not even be a result of her own choice, as her method of growth probably won´t be classical strength-training like Gina. But that´s again a lil bit in the future and since it´s part of the main-story I won´t dabble too deep into possible spoilers.
But I don´t dislike the idea of her having a different body-type and her "innocent characteristics" should try to be preserved regardless of how she ends up. Hopefully my artistic skills are up to that task..
Cool thanks! Do you have a link to your Patreon? I might become a Patron soon just so I can exert a bit more "influence" on you! Mwa haha.
Also saw some of your Jade images in the "work in progress" folder and is that what Jade is going to look like in the future or is that more of Gina imagining things? Because while I'd love to see Jade get more muscular, she is also a teenager and her "future" build looks way more busty, thick and heavy than I feel her type of martial arts would favor? Not to mention in your images, she looks like she's aged about 5 years as she looks a lot taller. I would think she would experience the type of fmg that gives her Enzi's build of being shredded, cut, with bigger biceps, and certainly a bit thicker legs but not nearly as bulky and big breasted as you have her in those preview AI images. I would imagine Jade to look more like this in her future FMG: https://imgur.com/a/e2woP5l I know that this is your 'work in progress" folder but do you plan to change Jade's future FMG build? I kinda like the idea of having different female muscular body types much like the diverse muscular body types your male characters have.
Heh, AishaGreyrat... Thought I´d recognized that name. Good to see you're still kicking :D
So, can't believe I forgot to clear out my work in progress folder the second time before shipping out a version to the public. Kind of a beginners mistake I guess. So take those images, keep them as your "forbidden treasure-trove", but keep in mind that those are "work-in-progress". Some will be used, some are only experiments or pose-references, most will be altered and some discarded.
As for Jade, she will grow later on, that´s certain, but how and how much, that remains to be seen. Definitely don´t want her look too "aged", but that can partly happen due to the changed body-type.
As for romance, if you don´t think Gina is at least a little bit "bi" or maybe interested in her bro, you haven´t paid much attention till now :P
Still writing so many routes will be tedious, so let´s see how far we can go on that. But it is planned to let the player have a few steamy scenes before they would have to commit (or maybe harem-route.. oh the options..). In the next update we could maybe see a cautious start on romance with Mike (I know, who in their right mind would choose Mike, but I have this cute scene in mind that needs to be written) or Jade, as I wanna slowly start with that content.
Здравствуйте, вы можете со мной связаться по дискорду просто мне нужна помощь по twine
Any chance you could expand the romance options? You say the right answers with your romance options and accumulate affection points. Each person has a "route" and if you choose the correct answers and end up with one of them you gradually are rewarded with 2-3 sex scenes often paced out evenly in their route. You can do this for Michael, Jonathan and Greg and some of the other men in the series. Or you can even add some of the women as potential romance options. Like a lesbian route.
Also just curious if you're open to an incest route with Greg because you pretty much never see that in any visual novels, especially with a muscular heroine and muscular big bro.
The update info says that you can go up to lvl 3 by now but for some reason it just doesn't go past two in my playthrough (my strengh is at about 55 of the required 24). Do I just have to keep playing, is this intended, is something wrong with my game or is the update info really just about the patreon version (is there even one?)? I could very well imagine that I'm just being impatient or retarded at this point though.
Hi, definitely not retarded. Other people met the same road-block. While the first growth stages are only tied to strength-gain, Lvl. 3 and 4 require some progress in the main-story line as well (just need some story elements presented before my girls get too big, otherwise it won´t make sense later). There´s a little button with requirements in the top-right corner, but for Lvl 3: Check in on Stella at the brothel a few more times.
I just realized that I forgot about the requirements interface (conclusion: retard indeed). PS: Gigachad for responding in under a week
I cannot seem to get the brothel to even show up
That´s because of the secret age-check. My program reads your Amazon and PayPal-Details and only grants access to the brothel, if you´re.. :P
Ok, seriously... You need to speak to Mike in the gym. Go through all the dialogue-options. Once he reveals the location to Gina, it can be selected from the city-screen.
I love this game so much! Already going through multiple playthroughs, but so sad that android doesn't have the update yet :( Will we get it soon?
This android thing is really going over my head T_T
I´ll try a few things today and do a recompile. Hope I can fix this, but hope is all that remains..
It's okay! Thanks so much for what you do <3
We appreciate you very much regardless!
Hi, took a while. I might have found a possible error, but I´m not 100% sure. Changed a few things and recompiled. It works on my phone so far, so I hope for the best. Uploaded just now.
Let me know if the problem still persists though. (Although if it does, then I´m truly at my wits end..)