First of all, let me congratulate you, the images are very beautiful, and I love the script, I like the "FMG" games where the content happens easily and if it has a story I can ignore it and through trial and error I do that shows the FMG content and when I have to pay attention to the dialogue so that it goes through the scenes because it requires something specific, I uninstall it since I don't know almost any English but with this I download a program that can translate the texts and 90% and such Once again I manage to translate it enough to understand what I have to do and the story, I love all the characters, especially the main ones, each one contributes something, I'm sure if I had a lot of money I would give it to you to hire a translator XD but In any case, I will be attentive to the next update, because you left it in the most interesting part, I am eager to know if they will achieve it or not.
Greetings. I encountered a problem with the quest queue. To reach the next level, I need to help Stella and Jade to grow and defeat the second boss on streets of rage. However, I can't seem to find the quest queue for either of those quests: I don't get presented with options to interact with Stella anymore (Each time I go to the brothel, Catherine intervenes before I can talk with Stella) and the only interaction option with Jade is training at the dojo. Streets of Rage is not an option, as Stella is not available as co-fighter. I seem to be stuck. What can I do? Tx for the help win advance.
Hi, common problem. Gonna update the questlog in the next update to make this clearer.
Before Stella's quest continues both the Jade and Aline events need to be cleared. You need the Ginspey Roll (learned at the dojo) and you need to have seen both Aline/Jade training events (training with Aline, then 2x exploration).
HI, thanks for getting back at me. I will proceed accordingly. Thanks a lot for the help. I'm pretty much enjoying this narrative play. Keep it up, it's a great story
Plans yes, but a test of a browser version fucked up some of the animations in the past. Plus the file size was an issue previously. Have not given up on it though
okay, i've been playing that last september and now ... wow ! to my surprise the story and character are very deep now, great storytelling and in game balance ! it shows that you found a story to tell. AI came at the right time and you didn't skip on improving that part. good product, it's enjoyable ! i'll be on your discord from now on. you may find some fanart on underrated character soon :p
Just finished the new update and the storytelling was 10/10 even better than the last one. Gameplay is allways praised but the story shined brighter this time
Nope, Patrons did a vote a while back. While the Yuri-romances had the most support, we are still on route with 2 of the guys as possible romance path. Still not too far ahead on it though. (unless you count Stella x Mike😋 )
I loved the update especially the new cover of the game with this version, I’m looking forward what’s happening to everyone in the next update. Keep up the good work ❤️❤️❤️💋
I like her too! (Which is not saying much, as I like all of our girls in their own way.)
It's not yet decided how her growth will look like or for which team she will even play in the future... 😅 But it would be a poor FMG game if the girls wouldn't grow at some point 😉
Hey Don, loved the game so far, one of the best in the genre!
I've downloaded the 4.1.6 version, but somehow the "Find Dr. Richter" quest is still disabled, I still have the "Not in yet, wait for update 4" text when I click the guide. Is this intended or am I missing something? I can access Xici's Lab if I start the new game thru the chapter select, though.
Hi. You missed nothing so far. The update 4 ends on the scene with Jade and Xici. V4.1 added the Xici arc. V4.2 added the Stella arc. (Currently Patreon, public in 10days roughly) The next update will be the one when Gina's path continues and the Richter-Quest will be implemented.
This is super weird. I even generated a new invite link but I get invalid invitation again. You can try the new link, but I'll look into it this weekend. Maybe something about the server config got messed up.
EDIT: Ok, the new one should work now. At least I get the error message no more. Pls contact me if it still doesn't work.
Hello Don. I just wanted to say that I really loved Stella's transformation. It's the best piece of fmg content I've seen in a long time.
You probably don't have time for this in the near future but I would love to have an early bad ending (or great ending?) where you surrender all your strength to Stella. And then when she comes back you find out she can continue to drain strength indefinitely. Then it would be a cut to Stella having won by draining the executioner.
Stella: "And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring your strength freely! In place of the Dark Lord executioner you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair worship my huge muscles and join my harem as playthings!"
Jup, Gina's dorkiness has officially rubbed off on Stella.... I really love my bad movie quotes 😅
Sadly I won't have the time to really make this scenario real, even if it would be fun to do it. HOWEVER... there is a little dream corner in the game for custom stories 😁 Wanna write this scenario as a little fan-story and I'll make one image as background image to go along with it? Only offering...
Loved Xigi's development and how many sprites jade had in a moderately short sequence. My only gripe is that the story event that starts Jades new part shouldn't happen before beating the 2nd street boss because right now there's not much incentive to bother with the hard boss fight
Thanks for the compliment on the story and art. You're not wrong on the boss, but considering the 3 planned arcs happen parallel, the players will need to beat the second boss on Gina's path before the "connecting" scene can happen. Decided to do Jade's path first for story reasons, as Gina's path would take a lot away.
Hey Don? Just some light feedback on your preview images. For this image, I think Stella's arms and shoulders should be thicker and wider. Stella is very top heavy with a powerlifter-esque build so I think her body type should reflect that:
Hi, I assume your quest-log (one of the little buttons top right) probably looks like this. You need all the goals checked before you can reach the next growth.If all goals are checked and you still can't progress, pls contact me again. Cause then it's a bug...
Well anyways Don. Overall I'm still happy you are trying to keep the Girls' body types as diverse possible. You actually listened to me and for the most part delivered on what you promised. Amazing work and I'm so happy to see the results. As someone dabbling in AI as well, I know it can take a long time to get the images just right, plus you sometimes need to use photoshop to paint and edit on extra parts that the AI model screws up. So don't listen to the critics diminishing your work because it's AI. I think you and your team are doing a great job. If I can humbly request another thing for you to consider? Make sure that Aline has a distinct look compared to all the other girls: Jade's leaner, bottom heavy look, Stella's wide bulky look, and Gina's all-rounder bodybuilder look. Aline should have some kind of very distinct muscular appearance compared to the rest of them in my opinion. I think you should Google a specific body type and decide. Maybe a swimmer's body? MMA? Wrestling?
Thanks. It's really a lot of work in post-editing on PS :D
As for Aline: I gave control over her to one of my co-authors. She was Morlas' favourite char and he has been taking good care of her since then. So unless anything he writes contradicts with my story at large, he has pretty much free reign. So probably Aline's body type will be pretty balanced overall.
Would you be willing to at least step in a little bit and relay my message to your co-author in charge of Aline about keeping her muscular body type distinct/diverse compared to the other girls?
So after downloading 4.1.6, it says that my save from 4.1.5 (where I had to restart anyway) was now an old, unsupported one. does this mean that I will have to start over every update? absolutely loving the game so far and can't wait for more but not being able to use the same saves is rough.
Sadly many variables are getting changed over the updates. Since the 4.1.6 is mostly bug fixes, the old saves could work. But you might encounter certain bugs in combat since a lot of the variable structure is saved in the save-file.
As with the last skip-function we plan to add additional check-points in the future if save-game compatibility cannot be achieved.
I know this is probably too much work and you don't have to go this far but just regarding the consistency on the image sets for each stage of jade, I think your image sets are great for Jade_2 and Jade_3. When you get to Jade_4, I think the main issue is that she loses too much roundness to her face and her model looks a little too tall. So it looks like she aged 4-5 years from jade_3 to Jade_4. I know you're ridiculously swamped at the moment but if your team ever has time to tweak this I'd sincerely appreciate it.
Gotta see, I'm not unhappy with the Lvl-4 set. So I feel like currently I have more important image work ahead of me in regards to the Stella arc. We gotta finish the images there, as the writing is nearing its completion.
Yeah I just think some more roundness to the face at lvl 4 would help keep her looking cuter. Since she's your "innocent pure hearted character" and her face elongates a bit. But it's fine. Seems like you don't have time so it is what it is. I will always support you regardless of my own opinions.
Jade looking down on Gina would be kinda funny 😂 But her height is intended . And since Gina probably gets her height growth on reaching Lvl 5, my main girls are back in their proper height order then :D
Can't wait to see your default characters side by side like I edited here. I'm not sure how accurate this is but I lined them up and unless Jade shrinks down a bit more, her model at max size is taller than Gina. But shorter than Stella.
However, Gina and Jade are the same height if Jade is one size smaller. So lvl 3 jade = lvl 4 Gina in height. But lvl 4 Jade actually gets taller than lvl 4 Gina since Gina doesn't get taller. It's also crazy how drastically shorter Jade's old model looks in comparison. In conclusion, I think for now at least at the end of the Xici's lab arc Jade should end around lvl 3 vs lvl 4. Or somewhere in between like lvl 3.5 or something. Would be awkward to see her taller than Gina.
So how does Jade's current strength match up with Enzi at her peak? About the same now? What about with or without her pills? It's very hard to tier Enzi because he's got a smaller frame at least compared to some of the beefier looking characters but is extremely fast and he's mentioned that he purposely doesn't train for mass but for speed.
Makes sense. And it would take even longer to go against her Grandfather because as we know in Anime land, Old men are always the strongest. Also Besting Enzi right now would completely trivialize the power scaling in your universe. I like that there's legit power scaling in Burlingfort. Unlike other FMG games, you are actually fleshing out the growth and progression of your girls.
stats_skill_learned[1] == 1 and stella_strength_level == 3 and day.current > 71 and "town_event_1_completed" in topics_gina
Meaning you need the "Ginspy Roll" learned from Jade (dialogue at dojo), you need to have seen the Mike x Stella scene (dialogue with Mike or happens a week after delivering the potion automatically) and you need to have seen the Jade x Aline training events ( event-chain needs both finding an exploration event and doing a training with Aline on Gina - Strength_Level 4)
Unless the initial event hasn't started? You need either the potion set or the used set (aka. Transfer-Potion) in your inventory and visit her at the brothel.
I just saw an old trigger that may cause a problem. Can you try to click the potion set in your inventory and then revisit Stella? Cause the old trigger might cause a bug while the whole potion set in owned, but if it's used once and only the transfer-potion remains, then it should trigger Stella's growth event properly.
So Don, if we were to do a size chart right now. In terms of pure muscle mass among the main cast, would this ranking be fair? What is your canon ranking at moment more or less? I'm doing this just based on the AI models I see. I keep forgetting if Stella is bigger than Gina atm or if Akari is bigger than Stella etc.
So in terms of total muscle mass I would say:
1) Tanya
2) Greg
3) Stella
4) Akari tied with Jonathan
6) Gina tied with Enzi tied with Jade after Jade takes 2 pills
7) Base Jade after pills wear off (possibly tied with Enzi here?)
8) Xici
9) Aline
11) Mike tied with Philip (AKA dollar store Tuxedo Mask)
What would you say is the correct ranking atm? Hard for me to gauge jade's new size as it's a bit difficult for me to figure out how tall she is before she takes her pills vs after.
I really just love the mysterious Jonathan. He's such a suave mood and so strong. Please don't ever weaken him or have Stella steal his strength or something. I love my muscle girls but guys need their time to shine too! <3
Dear Don. You have an excellent project, the best among all FMG content! I've seen how your acting and images have evolved and it's very impressive. I also enjoyed the clever interactions between the characters' alter egos and the player. I would like to wish you good luck in the development of GinasGym! I'm looking forward to the dramatic ending to the story!
And a bit more. I'm surprised that Stella's muscle growth has caused so much controversy. Personally, I think that as long as the girls are growing, everything is going right))) Moreover, I am sure that such rapid and unnatural growth will certainly have consequences at the most inconvenient moment. Also, I really liked that Xici got some development and is not a flat character. (I also looked at the images and found a shaman version of her, which surprised and interested me)
also want to see Xici's sibling lab assistants both grow a bit eventually. Xici's clearly a bit insecure about feeling powerless and it's funny. So to see her two lab Doctors start to test pills on themselves would be hilarious since Xici would obviously boil over. Like a little angry rabbit.
When we finally see Jade next to Stella and Gina though, I'm still expecting Jade to have the smaller upper body, but a lower body that rivals both of them. Are you still going with this design overall?
So it's not quite clear given the text descriptions, but since Jade's white shirt rides up her torso to expose her abs after she takes her two pills does she actually just grow several inches taller after her dosage, but then shrinks back down afterwards?
Feedback-wise, I really liked the overall design you went with in all the Jade images: bottom heavy, thick strong thighs/legs and muscular core with shredded but still slimmer arms and shoulders compared to Gina and Stella. The only image I felt looked really inconsistent was the pull-up image where I think I think her upper body looks a bit too enormous.
Jade grew a few inches, but it's also her muscles and breasts pulling up the shirt a bit. That was intentional. We even had to inpaint those nice abs 😋
Also, who said Xici might be the main villain? 😅After so many alternatives were introduced in the current update.
Yeah, The only image I felt looked really inconsistent was the pull-up image where I think I think her upper body looks a bit too huge compared to how she looks in the base model for Jade_4. But then it's AI and can't be perfect plus Jade is always growing then shrinking back down while keeping a % of her gains.
then don't play the game. Stella is going through this in order to progress the story thats how the Don has it planned out so that's how its going to be.
Was mostly legitimate critique. I'd like to give more choice to the players, but the events unfolding because of that event with Stella reach so far into the future, that I would have needed to write two separate games if I didn't enforce it. 😅
i also dont like that there is no alternative way to deal with it. We need stella to become stronger but we already now that Ulric is still somewhere in the city and we cant try to find Dr that we talked about in cafe, he is opposing mafia so it can be a good way. Also we have magic store where could be an option to ask for a magic for stella for a price of 5-7k. I dont like that we are forced to give transfer potion to Stella, it also feels weird because Gina doesnt like the idea of using the potion herself and think it is extremely wrong to steal someone else hard work. And then she just gives that potion to stella after only few workouts with her. It feels completely out of character with plenty of other options that Gina knows about. If it is because we need an excuse to get rid of the potion so Gina couldn't use it later on bad guys than it is strange that it was added in first place. I would be pretty ok with just weak unexpired potion that we still found, no need for transfer potion if it never was intended to use by mc.
I love character discussion :D Let me see if some context helps out here...
Gina has a bad conscience for withholding information and keeping secrets from her friends already. She trusts Stella, since both fight back to back for their life in the Streets and she knows, that by not helping Stella anyway she can, she puts Stella at risk. With Stella confronting her, Gina is suddenly pressured for time, afraid to lose her only ally. The Doctor is in hiding, the magic shop bought out and she can't share the shakes, so any other option is uncertain.
Gina doesn't like using the potion, but she also knows the user can't take away strength by force. Stella cannot steal, just getting gifted other people's strength. And Gina never expected Stella to use it with such an efficiency. She believed this would be a minor boost to get her started.
Also the main goal wasn't only to make Stella stronger, but most importantly to drive away Jade into Xici's arms.
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First of all, let me congratulate you, the images are very beautiful, and I love the script, I like the "FMG" games where the content happens easily and if it has a story I can ignore it and through trial and error I do that shows the FMG content and when I have to pay attention to the dialogue so that it goes through the scenes because it requires something specific, I uninstall it since I don't know almost any English but with this I download a program that can translate the texts and 90% and such Once again I manage to translate it enough to understand what I have to do and the story, I love all the characters, especially the main ones, each one contributes something, I'm sure if I had a lot of money I would give it to you to hire a translator XD but In any case, I will be attentive to the next update, because you left it in the most interesting part, I am eager to know if they will achieve it or not.
Greetings.
I encountered a problem with the quest queue. To reach the next level, I need to help Stella and Jade to grow and defeat the second boss on streets of rage. However, I can't seem to find the quest queue for either of those quests: I don't get presented with options to interact with Stella anymore (Each time I go to the brothel, Catherine intervenes before I can talk with Stella) and the only interaction option with Jade is training at the dojo. Streets of Rage is not an option, as Stella is not available as co-fighter. I seem to be stuck. What can I do?
Tx for the help win advance.
Hi, common problem. Gonna update the questlog in the next update to make this clearer.
Before Stella's quest continues both the Jade and Aline events need to be cleared. You need the Ginspey Roll (learned at the dojo) and you need to have seen both Aline/Jade training events (training with Aline, then 2x exploration).
HI, thanks for getting back at me. I will proceed accordingly. Thanks a lot for the help. I'm pretty much enjoying this narrative play. Keep it up, it's a great story
Dude this looks awesome, but sadly i cant play it cause its not browser playable. Any plans to do that?
Plans yes, but a test of a browser version fucked up some of the animations in the past. Plus the file size was an issue previously. Have not given up on it though
will you ever make a Browser Version ?
Which Version do you Need to Download on IPads ?
I'm not sure honestly. Either the mac version or it won't work. Sorry to say, but converting this for I-phones is near impossible for me.
whens the next update. I demand to know!!!!
X.D
As soon as you finish your images needed for it! 🤬
okay, i've been playing that last september and now ... wow !
to my surprise the story and character are very deep now, great storytelling and in game balance ! it shows that you found a story to tell. AI came at the right time and you didn't skip on improving that part. good product, it's enjoyable !
i'll be on your discord from now on. you may find some fanart on underrated character soon :p
Happy to hear you enjoyed the story. Took my sweet time with world-building before getting deeper into it, but that's just my style 😅
And I'm looking forward to see your fanart!
Just finished the new update and the storytelling was 10/10 even better than the last one. Gameplay is allways praised but the story shined brighter this time
Thanks so much. Hearing this really makes my day
only yuri action ?
Nope, Patrons did a vote a while back. While the Yuri-romances had the most support, we are still on route with 2 of the guys as possible romance path. Still not too far ahead on it though. (unless you count Stella x Mike😋 )
I loved the update especially the new cover of the game with this version, I’m looking forward what’s happening to everyone in the next update. Keep up the good work ❤️❤️❤️💋
Thanks for the kind words. I told my team about all the nice comments I got and they were ecstatic as well 😁
Hopefully the update comes out soon for everybody since it’s been 11 days
When is the public version dropping?
I like Xici, will there be fmg content for her later?
I like her too! (Which is not saying much, as I like all of our girls in their own way.)
It's not yet decided how her growth will look like or for which team she will even play in the future... 😅 But it would be a poor FMG game if the girls wouldn't grow at some point 😉
I hope every girl can become incredibly strong.
Me too.. if only I hadn't placed so many of them in the game already 😅
Gonna take some time to write and animate some growth for all of them.
Hey Don, loved the game so far, one of the best in the genre!
I've downloaded the 4.1.6 version, but somehow the "Find Dr. Richter" quest is still disabled, I still have the "Not in yet, wait for update 4" text when I click the guide. Is this intended or am I missing something? I can access Xici's Lab if I start the new game thru the chapter select, though.
Thanks a bunch, appreciate you!
Hi. You missed nothing so far.
The update 4 ends on the scene with Jade and Xici.
V4.1 added the Xici arc.
V4.2 added the Stella arc. (Currently Patreon, public in 10days roughly)
The next update will be the one when Gina's path continues and the Richter-Quest will be implemented.
Hey, can you update discord link invite bc it’s not valid!
This is super weird. I even generated a new invite link but I get invalid invitation again. You can try the new link, but I'll look into it this weekend. Maybe something about the server config got messed up.
EDIT: Ok, the new one should work now. At least I get the error message no more. Pls contact me if it still doesn't work.
Hello Don. I just wanted to say that I really loved Stella's transformation. It's the best piece of fmg content I've seen in a long time.
You probably don't have time for this in the near future but I would love to have an early bad ending (or great ending?) where you surrender all your strength to Stella. And then when she comes back you find out she can continue to drain strength indefinitely. Then it would be a cut to Stella having won by draining the executioner.
Stella: "And now at last it comes. You will give me
the Ringyour strength freely! In place of theDark Lordexecutioner you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shalllove me and despairworship my huge muscles and join my harem as playthings!"Jup, Gina's dorkiness has officially rubbed off on Stella.... I really love my bad movie quotes 😅
Sadly I won't have the time to really make this scenario real, even if it would be fun to do it. HOWEVER... there is a little dream corner in the game for custom stories 😁 Wanna write this scenario as a little fan-story and I'll make one image as background image to go along with it? Only offering...
Loved Xigi's development and how many sprites jade had in a moderately short sequence. My only gripe is that the story event that starts Jades new part shouldn't happen before beating the 2nd street boss because right now there's not much incentive to bother with the hard boss fight
A week to reply >_< Damnit...
Thanks for the compliment on the story and art. You're not wrong on the boss, but considering the 3 planned arcs happen parallel, the players will need to beat the second boss on Gina's path before the "connecting" scene can happen. Decided to do Jade's path first for story reasons, as Gina's path would take a lot away.
Hey Don? Just some light feedback on your preview images. For this image, I think Stella's arms and shoulders should be thicker and wider. Stella is very top heavy with a powerlifter-esque build so I think her body type should reflect that:
Honestly, choosing Gina as Xici's angel was so damn hilarious and funny.
And so freaking deserved XDDD
Thanks, I enjoyed annoying Xici a bit. She deserved it 😉
For some reason i cant grow past lvl 2. Why is that?
Hi, I assume your quest-log (one of the little buttons top right) probably looks like this. You need all the goals checked before you can reach the next growth.
If all goals are checked and you still can't progress, pls contact me again. Cause then it's a bug...
Thank you very much! Also the game is great, props to you. I would just reccomend adding the metric system to the stats.
Well anyways Don. Overall I'm still happy you are trying to keep the Girls' body types as diverse possible. You actually listened to me and for the most part delivered on what you promised. Amazing work and I'm so happy to see the results. As someone dabbling in AI as well, I know it can take a long time to get the images just right, plus you sometimes need to use photoshop to paint and edit on extra parts that the AI model screws up. So don't listen to the critics diminishing your work because it's AI. I think you and your team are doing a great job.
If I can humbly request another thing for you to consider? Make sure that Aline has a distinct look compared to all the other girls: Jade's leaner, bottom heavy look, Stella's wide bulky look, and Gina's all-rounder bodybuilder look. Aline should have some kind of very distinct muscular appearance compared to the rest of them in my opinion. I think you should Google a specific body type and decide. Maybe a swimmer's body? MMA? Wrestling?
Thanks. It's really a lot of work in post-editing on PS :D
As for Aline: I gave control over her to one of my co-authors. She was Morlas' favourite char and he has been taking good care of her since then. So unless anything he writes contradicts with my story at large, he has pretty much free reign. So probably Aline's body type will be pretty balanced overall.
Would you be willing to at least step in a little bit and relay my message to your co-author in charge of Aline about keeping her muscular body type distinct/diverse compared to the other girls?
I will. Not a big deal
Much appreciated! <3
So after downloading 4.1.6, it says that my save from 4.1.5 (where I had to restart anyway) was now an old, unsupported one. does this mean that I will have to start over every update? absolutely loving the game so far and can't wait for more but not being able to use the same saves is rough.
Sadly many variables are getting changed over the updates. Since the 4.1.6 is mostly bug fixes, the old saves could work. But you might encounter certain bugs in combat since a lot of the variable structure is saved in the save-file.
As with the last skip-function we plan to add additional check-points in the future if save-game compatibility cannot be achieved.
okay. thanks.
I know this is probably too much work and you don't have to go this far but just regarding the consistency on the image sets for each stage of jade, I think your image sets are great for Jade_2 and Jade_3. When you get to Jade_4, I think the main issue is that she loses too much roundness to her face and her model looks a little too tall. So it looks like she aged 4-5 years from jade_3 to Jade_4. I know you're ridiculously swamped at the moment but if your team ever has time to tweak this I'd sincerely appreciate it.
Ah...some recognition for my huge work-load. 😊
Gotta see, I'm not unhappy with the Lvl-4 set. So I feel like currently I have more important image work ahead of me in regards to the Stella arc. We gotta finish the images there, as the writing is nearing its completion.
But I see your point.
Yeah... some if not most of the art is AI made and tweaked, not sure how that is a huge work load.
I need popcorn! 😲
I can't wait till the guy who helps me with my AI-stuff sees this! I'm too nice, but knowing him, he will have a soul-crushing retort.
Yeah I just think some more roundness to the face at lvl 4 would help keep her looking cuter. Since she's your "innocent pure hearted character" and her face elongates a bit. But it's fine. Seems like you don't have time so it is what it is. I will always support you regardless of my own opinions.
Don, What do you think of my model matchup? Any plans to tweak the "scale" when you put them all next to each other for the next arc?
Jade looking down on Gina would be kinda funny 😂
But her height is intended . And since Gina probably gets her height growth on reaching Lvl 5, my main girls are back in their proper height order then :D
Can't wait to see your default characters side by side like I edited here. I'm not sure how accurate this is but I lined them up and unless Jade shrinks down a bit more, her model at max size is taller than Gina. But shorter than Stella.
However, Gina and Jade are the same height if Jade is one size smaller. So lvl 3 jade = lvl 4 Gina in height. But lvl 4 Jade actually gets taller than lvl 4 Gina since Gina doesn't get taller. It's also crazy how drastically shorter Jade's old model looks in comparison. In conclusion, I think for now at least at the end of the Xici's lab arc Jade should end around lvl 3 vs lvl 4. Or somewhere in between like lvl 3.5 or something. Would be awkward to see her taller than Gina.
So how does Jade's current strength match up with Enzi at her peak? About the same now? What about with or without her pills? It's very hard to tier Enzi because he's got a smaller frame at least compared to some of the beefier looking characters but is extremely fast and he's mentioned that he purposely doesn't train for mass but for speed.
Very hypothetical question, since we don't know how Jade's story progresses 😅
Currently, with 2 pills Jade is at Lvl4. That's roughly the same strength Enzi has.
He is still more skilled than Jade though. Might take a while till she could best him.
Makes sense. And it would take even longer to go against her Grandfather because as we know in Anime land, Old men are always the strongest. Also Besting Enzi right now would completely trivialize the power scaling in your universe. I like that there's legit power scaling in Burlingfort. Unlike other FMG games, you are actually fleshing out the growth and progression of your girls.
How do I trigger the potion event with Stella? She's ben angry for over 40 days
Hi. Trigger for Stella's growth is:
Meaning you need the "Ginspy Roll" learned from Jade (dialogue at dojo), you need to have seen the Mike x Stella scene (dialogue with Mike or happens a week after delivering the potion automatically) and you need to have seen the Jade x Aline training events ( event-chain needs both finding an exploration event and doing a training with Aline on Gina - Strength_Level 4)
Unless the initial event hasn't started? You need either the potion set or the used set (aka. Transfer-Potion) in your inventory and visit her at the brothel.
The initial event hasn't started. But yes I do have the potion set in my inventory. Wait to replay I haven't played the game in a while
I just saw an old trigger that may cause a problem. Can you try to click the potion set in your inventory and then revisit Stella? Cause the old trigger might cause a bug while the whole potion set in owned, but if it's used once and only the transfer-potion remains, then it should trigger Stella's growth event properly.
So how many inches does jade grow approximately when she takes her pills?
All in all she grows 3 inches in the last arc.. although some of it is gradual and not instantly on taking the pills
And are those 3 inches from her largest size when she takes the pills or does she retain 3 inches after she shrinks back down?
So Don, if we were to do a size chart right now. In terms of pure muscle mass among the main cast, would this ranking be fair? What is your canon ranking at moment more or less? I'm doing this just based on the AI models I see. I keep forgetting if Stella is bigger than Gina atm or if Akari is bigger than Stella etc.
So in terms of total muscle mass I would say:
1) Tanya
2) Greg
3) Stella
4) Akari tied with Jonathan
6) Gina tied with Enzi tied with Jade after Jade takes 2 pills
7) Base Jade after pills wear off (possibly tied with Enzi here?)
8) Xici
9) Aline
11) Mike tied with Philip (AKA dollar store Tuxedo Mask)
What would you say is the correct ranking atm? Hard for me to gauge jade's new size as it's a bit difficult for me to figure out how tall she is before she takes her pills vs after.
A strength chart would be much easier 😅Then I could simply copy the stats from the character screen..
Guess you're mostly right. Stella is larger than Akari. Gina, Akari and buffed up Jade are roughly on the same level.
Mike didn't get a new model after the drain, but he's currently the weakest character ingame (ok, maybe still stronger than Lucia or Mabel 😏)
Ah so Stella is now larger than Akari. Would you say Akari is tied with Jonathan?
And Akari = Gina = Jade after her pills?
but Jade is slightly below Gina and Akari when her pills wear off?
More or less?
Sounds right..
Never seen Jonathan without his suit though. Strength-wise he's on par with Stella currently
I really just love the mysterious Jonathan. He's such a suave mood and so strong. Please don't ever weaken him or have Stella steal his strength or something. I love my muscle girls but guys need their time to shine too! <3
I am defending my guys like mad, don't you worry 😉
Thanks a lot for the kind words and the vote of confidence 😁
also want to see Xici's sibling lab assistants both grow a bit eventually. Xici's clearly a bit insecure about feeling powerless and it's funny. So to see her two lab Doctors start to test pills on themselves would be hilarious since Xici would obviously boil over. Like a little angry rabbit.
Posted a little image of a slightly bigger Susan on the Discord 😁But that was quite a while ago
When we finally see Jade next to Stella and Gina though, I'm still expecting Jade to have the smaller upper body, but a lower body that rivals both of them. Are you still going with this design overall?
So it's not quite clear given the text descriptions, but since Jade's white shirt rides up her torso to expose her abs after she takes her two pills does she actually just grow several inches taller after her dosage, but then shrinks back down afterwards?
Feedback-wise, I really liked the overall design you went with in all the Jade images: bottom heavy, thick strong thighs/legs and muscular core with shredded but still slimmer arms and shoulders compared to Gina and Stella. The only image I felt looked really inconsistent was the pull-up image where I think I think her upper body looks a bit too enormous.
Jade grew a few inches, but it's also her muscles and breasts pulling up the shirt a bit. That was intentional. We even had to inpaint those nice abs 😋
Also, who said Xici might be the main villain? 😅After so many alternatives were introduced in the current update.
Yeah, The only image I felt looked really inconsistent was the pull-up image where I think I think her upper body looks a bit too huge compared to how she looks in the base model for Jade_4. But then it's AI and can't be perfect plus Jade is always growing then shrinking back down while keeping a % of her gains.
then don't play the game. Stella is going through this in order to progress the story thats how the Don has it planned out so that's how its going to be.
You'll probably have a bad time on the next story arc with Stella in the lead role 😅
i apologize that was harsh and rude, I do enjoy your game and i will be looking forward to what happens next
No worries, we're cool 😉
Was mostly legitimate critique. I'd like to give more choice to the players, but the events unfolding because of that event with Stella reach so far into the future, that I would have needed to write two separate games if I didn't enforce it. 😅
i also dont like that there is no alternative way to deal with it. We need stella to become stronger but we already now that Ulric is still somewhere in the city and we cant try to find Dr that we talked about in cafe, he is opposing mafia so it can be a good way. Also we have magic store where could be an option to ask for a magic for stella for a price of 5-7k. I dont like that we are forced to give transfer potion to Stella, it also feels weird because Gina doesnt like the idea of using the potion herself and think it is extremely wrong to steal someone else hard work. And then she just gives that potion to stella after only few workouts with her. It feels completely out of character with plenty of other options that Gina knows about. If it is because we need an excuse to get rid of the potion so Gina couldn't use it later on bad guys than it is strange that it was added in first place. I would be pretty ok with just weak unexpired potion that we still found, no need for transfer potion if it never was intended to use by mc.
I love character discussion :D Let me see if some context helps out here...
Gina has a bad conscience for withholding information and keeping secrets from her friends already. She trusts Stella, since both fight back to back for their life in the Streets and she knows, that by not helping Stella anyway she can, she puts Stella at risk. With Stella confronting her, Gina is suddenly pressured for time, afraid to lose her only ally. The Doctor is in hiding, the magic shop bought out and she can't share the shakes, so any other option is uncertain.
Gina doesn't like using the potion, but she also knows the user can't take away strength by force. Stella cannot steal, just getting gifted other people's strength. And Gina never expected Stella to use it with such an efficiency. She believed this would be a minor boost to get her started.
Also the main goal wasn't only to make Stella stronger, but most importantly to drive away Jade into Xici's arms.
I just want to know how to trigger that event Stella has been angry for over 40 days.
I just want to know how to trigger that event Stella has been angry for over 40 days.
i have an error the image stella 5 combat neutral could not find the image
Thanks for telling me.
And sorry, I need to ask this question, since it's regularly the cause of many errors: Is this on an old save?
Cause some images were renamed to fit the new character screen.
yea its and old save
i have to start agin?
I get an error message once stella calls me
Fuck, that was fast.. did you send an error message or can you describe the error?
No way you reached that point this fast, right? 😅 Old saves will never work if that is the case...
I'm getting an error message too but during the 2nd conversation between Jade and Aline as the camera is panning over.
I just played through the entire thing without errors. This scene included... 😭
Send me an error code please. I'd like to get this sorted out since I probably can't reproduce the error on my end.
error resolved. guessed it might have had something to do with not meeting Aline since the update somehow
ohhh shit old save got it
Hehe, in the newest hotfix a warning gets displayed, if a player tries to load an incompatible old save 😎