Hey, just want to spread some encouragement because I see some negative comments below. This is the best FMG game I've played so far and you are crushing it. I saw the guy below complaining about Stella getting huge but when one dislikes another likes and I personally love the concept of the dominant bossy girl getting all the power.. I actually hold the unpopular opinon of wanting the dominant bossy girl to be the biggest so I loved this update. Thanks for your work!
Many thanks for the kind words. This makes my day :D
But don't you worry, I was well aware of the controversy Stella would create and I love how this development can be seen differently. I was actually more surprised on how many people liked Stella like this 😉
I've come around with it. I'm just super happy you actually listened to me regarding Jade.
I think what the game could really use though are a pair of muscular female and male villains. So far the main villains don't feel too threatening and the executioner just kind of seems like nothing more than an OP bodyguard.
I wanted to agree that the executioner feels awkward and maybe even incoherent in the story's current incarnation.
It doesn't even make sense for Gina to be so incredulous about how big her mom was in that old picture because by then she's already seen the walking fridge woman that gives no fucks and doesn't particularly care for her job or have any investment in what's going on.
Given what the game is themed on, having the largest character so far coming across as virtually an afterthought is an . . . interesting choice. It would be like casting Roger Federer in The Prince of Tennis as a towel boy.
I'm curious if it is planned for this to be the only way to progress the plot, or if alternative methods of moving things along with Stella and Jade will be included.
If not, I can see why people might be bummed not just because Stella gets mean, but the player's ONLY means of progressing the story is to cave and do something that seems legitimately pretty darn shady.
I think most of us are fine with Stella getting huge and bossy. The "controversy" comes more from her getting huge through "cheating with drain magic that Gina just hands to her for free" and kind of being lazy at the gym vs training hard like Gina or Jade. That being said, Don told me it was intentional to snowball the effect with the other girls so I respect the decision.
As for unpopular opinions, I actually like this FMG game more than any other because this is the only FMG game I've played where the muscle girls go toe to toe with super muscular men. Usually the guys are just average and weak in FMG games but having the girls needing to muscle up to go against huge guys, makes their achievements that much cooler for me.
Hi, event is in, but a bit tricky to find. You have to buy the potion set from Lucia and use it in your inventory. One potion will remain, which you can deliver to Stella at the brothel.
Great game with great potential, but for the absolute love of god could you rewrite the parts with all the freudian psychobabble?
I get that you have no ill-intents and it's just being played for funny (buxom) laughs, but the thing is so wrong, so disingenuous and has been so harmful that it's a bit like the characters were joking about eugenics. If I can explain.
Surely didn't try to offend anyone with that. While I am aware that many theories of Freud have been revised or disproven, those are still present in the minds of many people, thus making them easy to understand for a broader audience. And after 9 month of writing, this is the first time I hear about them being compared to jokes about eugenics, especially since I felt like I didn't touch the most problematic topics of Freud.
However considering how deeply Gina's fictional characters are interwoven into the story by now, changing that would require an incredible amount of time. Maybe we can take them for what they are intended; as Gina's own imagination based on an partly outdated model that she just happens to know? 😅
*I mean*, it doesn't seem particularly difficult to rewrite them just in the way of good angel, bad angel (stemming from her "conscience", "morality" or even just fancies or personality cores rather than some hot and sour potato).
Then of course you'll have other priorities.. but I just wanted to underline how this representing a good chunk of what folk psychology is, is exactly the problem. Putting aside the indirect effect of making it seems like psychology as a whole is play-pretend unscientific voodoo, those concepts and their friends have helped to legitimize trulyderangedshit. No offense taken or meant, but if we just let them finally die in silence we'd be in a better society.
That was an interesting read, thanks for sharing. Now I'd say lots of "good" things can be perverted in many ways, so not too surprising in the end. Still I would only attribute some of these deranged things to Freud loosely. I'm not too deep in the field, but from my understanding the idea of Freud was to move away from "unscientific voodoo", by analysing and naming core principals of how the mind works, thus founding and advancing the field of psychoanalysis (even if a lot of his stuff turned out to be wrong and represents a very outdated view on sexuality and genders).
Of course the best place to discuss the impact on Freud on the field of psychoanalysis and society in general is the comment section of a pervy FMG game 😂. I'd like too deepen this, but for the sake of absolute clarity, I kinda need those shoulder angels and devils in their respective forms for the coming story to make sense, so this would really be a lot of work rewriting them. And I'm drowning in work already 😑. So guess they'll have to remain as they are for now...
The guy was the unscientific voodoo actually, going from the "simple" mockery of people trying to look into his claims to straightup faking his reports. It's true that back in those days you had even more metaphysical theories of the mind (and any kind of "talk therapy" is better than none I guess?), but he kinda managed to pull the rug from most other legitimate clinical research after captivating the attention of the public opinion with his immediately bold and fancy claims. A wound that still hasn't completely healed today.
Then I'm sure people aren't checking their mental health with a game (and of course we are far from any particular apologism here), but conversely.. this is also how such concepts still linger and persist into folk psychology isn't it?
By all means, I wish all the best to the shoulder angels.
Also I really loved "The Kiss of Muscle Growth (Sandy-Path)" by ScriptBoy. The whole sibling appeal is the energy that comes with muscle growth FMG overriding your logical brain's forbidden or taboo warnings. Just like the whole Devil Gina and Angel Greg thing you have going on in Gina's Gym. Anything similar to that one that you can remember?
Your team is working with you well! Nice job on the Jade look! I really appreciate how you are going to extra mile to make every muscular evolution of the core group of girls look different and unique and not just carbon copy bulky amazons who have bodies that all look like clones of your generic female bodybuilder AI generation. I hope you do the same with Aline! This is basically how I thought Jade's "final form" more or less should look like. Smaller arms, but very "tight" and lean muscle on the arms. Torso is incredibly muscular and shredded but still less "hulky" than Stella or Gina. But large powerful legs meant for kicking since this entire time with Enzi and her time with Gina, she's been defined as a "kick chick" martial artist. Nice job not going overboard with her boobs as well. Her shoulders are a little too broad for me but the prompt looks close enough. Try to stay on course and keep her build "bottom heavy" overall. I still think a subplot over her training with Enzi to land the ultimate kick to satisfy both him and her grandfather would be awesome.
I'm so happy you're actually taking my advice. It means a lot to me. Looks great in Pic #2 and Pic #3. Arms are about the right size. Not too bulky, shredded, lean, built for speed!
I recommend her "final form" in the end should be "bottom heavy", with moderately muscular arms that are quite smaller than Stella's or Ginas but with curvy thick powerful looking legs and solid core torso with shredded abs. Jade is a kicking machine after all and less of a powerlifter like Stella or Gina. I really like this design direction so far based off of pics number 2 and 3! Superb! I really really love it! You and your team have done a fantastic job Don.
Hey Don? Just curious but I know you mentioned you like some muscle growth stories/games with FMG and brother/sister siblings. Which ones were you talking about?
I admit to NOTHING!!! My heart is pure as the fresh snow!!!
But a FRIEND OF MINE could have MAYBE recommended some weird stuff like "Lil' Sister Got SUPER-SIZED" by Gorgon or "The Kiss of Muscle Growth (Sandy-Path)" by ScriptBoy. There may have been some more, but those came to mind first 😅 Not looking specially for sibling-stuff, but I take no offense in it if the story is good.
[SPOILERS] i really feel like there should be an option to not give stella the potion cause her superiority complex just becomes too much after that, and it makes me not want to play the game. But aside from that this is a really good game and i actually really like the character and story.
also because i thought stella was being mean I decided not to take her to the streets of rage second boss but her dialog still played I dont know if thats a bug or not. (fyi it was my first time at the second boss)
You weren't supposed to like Stella's antics (although a lot of people strangely did😅expected some, but not this many...) But she gets a character arc in one of the next updates, which will push her story further. Maybe even giving Gina the option to take her down a peg or let the player choose a direction for her. But that's for later, next up is Jade/Xici.
Streets dialogue is a bug. Have to rework it, thanks for telling me.
[SPOILERS] (fyi this is just my opinion and you can do what ever you want with the future of your game, i am very excited to see where you take it.) BUT, ANTICS SHE ALMOST KILLED SOMEONE, and i could tell with every fiber of my being that giving her that potion was a bad idea, i spent a lot of time trying to find a way around giving her the potion, i though maybe i could just motivate her to work harder and stay positive. BUT NOOO, SHE SUCKS AT TRAINING COMPLAINS ABOUT IT AND I HAVE TO FIX IT, AND YES I KNOW IM JEALOUS ABOUT HER SURPASSING ME INSTANDLY. I WAS SOOO EXCITED TO SEE HOW I COULD USE THAT POTION TO MAKE GINA STRONGER. also i feel really bad for mike, he obviously worked really hard to get were he was and even though he does enjoy muscular girls it doesn't feel like this is how it should have gone. I think that adding a way to make stella grow naturally or with a small boost would be a lot better. (again i'd like to say that the game is great and i feel like these feel im having are a direct result of good characters and writing.)
[SPOILERS] Hehe! Love hearing feedback of any kind. I like to improve after all. And I find it charming that my characters can cause these kinds of emotions. (you are not alone in this 😏 My DMs on Discord were full of people wanting to discuss this)
But sorry, no way around her getting that potion.😅 I needed it for the story with Jade to happen after all, so Stella took one for the team by becoming this bitchy. No other girl would have gotten drunk on power like her and acted on her dominant side towards everyone she was jealous of.
But I'd say there was never any mortal danger for James. Just some scare tactics from our "little" prostitute, who can be very good at acting. Ok, she enjoyed it too 😆But she's not really evil! She wouldn't kill anyone!
Jade kinda has the power to turn every scene into a damn wholesome cuddle-party. I remember trying to write some perverted scenes with the nuns using her and see how that turned out. So currently I worry more about the integrity of my villains than about Jade 😂
Then again, I'm a "pesky mothaf-", so let's see how this plays out. 😈
Really anxious about your Jade muscle growth re-design considering the "preview files" i found in an older copy of your game's package contents, which kind of showed muscle Jade as basically looking more or less the same as Gina's body but with jade's face. I think the biggest issue I had was that it physically seemed to age up jade in mature ways that weren't really consistent with her "cute Sifu" type of vibe which I think you should still maintain at least appearance wise.
I'm still very much liking my idea for the new Jade to be primarily "leg focused" with a leaner upper body and also determined to someday land the ultimate kick which she will practice with Enzi a lot.
These old Files really are the bane of my existance 😅 If all goes by plan, you'll see Jade in all her new muscular glory in roughly 3 weeks.
We will try for a Focus on legs and core, while keeping shoulders and arms just slightly slimmer to keep a Part of her cute/girlish aesthetic. Of course her build has to look proportional to a degree, so still expect some mass on the upper body.
Yeah of course. Again, it's all about making each character look distinct. I mean look at Bayshore Academy one of your favorite FMG games of all time. Each character looks pretty different. Mia is generally smaller, shorter, and leaner relative to the other girls but still very muscular and has the most shredded body and relative to the Male MC she's still even with him in height and more muscular after her second growth spurt. Jessica is tall and has a large upper body but also has an enormous ass and huge legs. Elena is the biggest by far with both a huge upper and lower body and is very tall. Sophia has about the same muscle mass as Mia but huge boobs compared to everyone else. So yeah it pays off to have everyone look unique and distinct. I'm actually hoping that you will go the extra mile and make each muscular character look MORE distinct body-type wise compared to Bayshore academy. Fingers crossed!
Not sure.. I think I could use Paypal too on other Patreons. I could look into it, but for now just enjoy for free. Will only become relevant on the next update then.
Thank you! Honestly there are only four games on Patreon where I almost don't care about benefits and just want them to have my money. Yours is one of them. And btw yours is the only one with AI art.
In that case I'm very lucky, cause my benefits are honestly terrible 😅Not like I don't have any lofty ideas, but I always end up rather working on the game directly than making anything special for patreon.
Pretty much was like this till now. But since the last update I'm no longer a Solo-Dev. 😁Let's see if this goes faster with a little team. Also next update is planned to be split into smaller portions, so hopefully next small update is in January
You need the potion-set from Lucia, use it from the inventory and deliver the remaining potion to Stella after you'll ve done the Training Event with Stella and Jade.
Hi.. the item you need is the transfer potion. Did you use the potion set from your inventory? This should remove the basic set and leave only the transfer potion needed
Also I think you should introduce a new set of antagonists who are just straight up evil loose canons who are loyal to no one but themselves that Xixi might go to when she's desperate for more firepower. I'm thinking a couple of mad scientist black market doctors who are also a brother and sister to reflect a dark version of Gina and Greg. They use themselves as test subjects to inject illegal muscle growth drugs with monstrous side effects that mutate their bodies to look distorted, twisted, and purple and it warps their faces into looking demonic. These two could be the ones responsible for the creation of Xixi's executioner (who could then turn out to be just one of many manufactured executioner clones they created).
Even if you don't go with it fully, consider making some kind of a muscle duo of mad scientists who are just a dark "Chaotic Evil" reflection of Gina and Greg but ones that the Mafia turns to when they are desperate and you could build your own character profiles around that concept.
Well, you'll have to wait a bit for the next surprise 😏 Villain-Arc of Xicis lab ist about 2/3 written. Hope I'll get it out in January.
Some good ideas there, some might be in line with my plans, some might be written differently already. But I'm having a lot of fun writting Xicis and Jade currently.
Oh man. I really don't want Jade to turn to the dark side with XiXi. I was hoping Stella would slightly turn to the dark side and Gina would ask greg for an emergency Protein Shake to use on Jade. Wonder if the side effects of Xixi's lab will turn Jade evil.
I think in line with Xixi's drugs, you could make a case for them not necessarily bulking someone's arms up (because I want muscular jade to still look extremely distinct compared to Stella or Gina) but increasing muscle density a lot, in which jade's new look should reflect significantly a defined but compact upper body but a larger lower body with a focus on thicker more powerful legs for her kicking. Could even have a scene where Stella is talking smack to Jade about Stella still having much larger arms but Jade then mocks her through delivering a devastating kick that stops right in front of Stella's face but still knocks Stella over through sheer air pressure. That would be awesome.
Procedurally-generated art theft using a machine-learning algorithm as the thief tools. They all give off uncanny valley something fierce and look very same-y with other art theft using procedural generation as a medium to steal with.
I assume you mean the fight after the training scene with Jade?
If that's the case you need to find something to help start Stella's growth. Buy the potion-set from Lucia and use it in the inventory. Only the transfer potion remains, which you deliver to Stella at the brothel then
It's in Korean but just look at the girls. It literally has Characters with a "Gina" and "Stella" build, as well as two other characters I could see you going for with a Jade and Aline build. Perfect example of diverse but still sexy muscular female body types which keep things interesting.
Amazing job with Gina ripping out of her suit. Super sexy stuff. Would love to see more of that in the future. Must be hard to do with AI art as well.
Also the Light Novel translation shit with Akari is spot on as I'm definitely "that kind of person" when it comes to web novel translations on NoveUpdates.com eventually becoming anime haha.
I also want to ask, are there any tradeoffs to training alone versus training with Jade or Aline or Greg? Seems to me that there should be positives/negatives for training only gina vs training with friends. Or at least something different between stat gains for gina vs stat gains for the other girls to differentiate the choices.
No, currently training alone is inferior. There are plans to add some kind of extreme work-out that's impossible for anyone but Gina, that will make Solo-Training viable again, but maybe with a cooldown
Now that I think about it is Aline the tallest of the four girls?
I'm still torn on how I think Aline should look by the end. Clearly I want her build to have distinguishing characteristics that are different from Stella, since they are both blondes, and with the same bodybuilding frame would suffer from looking too similar. I think your new AI assistants can help by maybe introducing new character models that highlight each girl's full frame (including the legs) more so we can really see the difference in muscle mass distribution (bigger upper body vs bigger lower body, bulk vs shredded etc)
Also I really want Stella vs Jade+Aline to become hard core "frenemies." Passive aggressive hostile girl dialogue between Stella against the both of them. I'd love it.
Also I know you make a lot of comments on strong characters with lots of muscle but terrible form. It should be a running Joke for Stella, despite being the beefiest for now to have consistently terrible form since she's lazy when it comes to following Gina's instructions. So when Jade gets more muscular, she'll still be able to outlift Stella partially due to better form.
After getting drained, I think a cool romance+sidequest option with Mike is Gina becoming his new teacher to get his strength back to what it was in terms of his early story baseline, since Mike is weaker than even base level Aline now. As part of the Mike romance arc, Gina can give him instructions on better technique, boss him around but also train with him to help him get back his strength, ending with a romance scene near the end.
I like that one. I'll write an event with that as a topic. (Not that Gina would know a lot more about technique than Mike.. but he would still love to have her around as a trainer)
Hi, little button top-right with the !/? is your quest-log. Check there if all requirements are met. The green "?" are clickable to give hints on how to complete those quests.
If all requirements are checked growth should happen over the next night. If not, pls write me again and I`ll look into it.
Depends which dialogue.. she complains more than once. But Catherine is not required to progress currently. This is more a bit of foreshadowing for things to come.
She will be available again after the growth-events have all been handled. Post directly below should give hints on how to complete it. Unless you haven't seen the Yuri-Scene yet. Then you need to buy the potions at Lucias and bring the remaining one to Stella to start the growth events.
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Hey, just want to spread some encouragement because I see some negative comments below. This is the best FMG game I've played so far and you are crushing it. I saw the guy below complaining about Stella getting huge but when one dislikes another likes and I personally love the concept of the dominant bossy girl getting all the power.. I actually hold the unpopular opinon of wanting the dominant bossy girl to be the biggest so I loved this update. Thanks for your work!
Many thanks for the kind words. This makes my day :D
But don't you worry, I was well aware of the controversy Stella would create and I love how this development can be seen differently. I was actually more surprised on how many people liked Stella like this 😉
I've come around with it. I'm just super happy you actually listened to me regarding Jade.
I think what the game could really use though are a pair of muscular female and male villains. So far the main villains don't feel too threatening and the executioner just kind of seems like nothing more than an OP bodyguard.
Isn't it a fine coincidence we're doing a villain arc next? 😏
I wanted to agree that the executioner feels awkward and maybe even incoherent in the story's current incarnation.
It doesn't even make sense for Gina to be so incredulous about how big her mom was in that old picture because by then she's already seen the walking fridge woman that gives no fucks and doesn't particularly care for her job or have any investment in what's going on.
Given what the game is themed on, having the largest character so far coming across as virtually an afterthought is an . . . interesting choice. It would be like casting Roger Federer in The Prince of Tennis as a towel boy.
I'm curious if it is planned for this to be the only way to progress the plot, or if alternative methods of moving things along with Stella and Jade will be included.
If not, I can see why people might be bummed not just because Stella gets mean, but the player's ONLY means of progressing the story is to cave and do something that seems legitimately pretty darn shady.
I think most of us are fine with Stella getting huge and bossy. The "controversy" comes more from her getting huge through "cheating with drain magic that Gina just hands to her for free" and kind of being lazy at the gym vs training hard like Gina or Jade. That being said, Don told me it was intentional to snowball the effect with the other girls so I respect the decision.
As for unpopular opinions, I actually like this FMG game more than any other because this is the only FMG game I've played where the muscle girls go toe to toe with super muscular men. Usually the guys are just average and weak in FMG games but having the girls needing to muscle up to go against huge guys, makes their achievements that much cooler for me.
Hi, event is in, but a bit tricky to find. You have to buy the potion set from Lucia and use it in your inventory. One potion will remain, which you can deliver to Stella at the brothel.
Great game with great potential, but for the absolute love of god could you rewrite the parts with all the freudian psychobabble?
I get that you have no ill-intents and it's just being played for funny (buxom) laughs, but the thing is so wrong, so disingenuous and has been so harmful that it's a bit like the characters were joking about eugenics. If I can explain.
Surely didn't try to offend anyone with that. While I am aware that many theories of Freud have been revised or disproven, those are still present in the minds of many people, thus making them easy to understand for a broader audience. And after 9 month of writing, this is the first time I hear about them being compared to jokes about eugenics, especially since I felt like I didn't touch the most problematic topics of Freud.
However considering how deeply Gina's fictional characters are interwoven into the story by now, changing that would require an incredible amount of time. Maybe we can take them for what they are intended; as Gina's own imagination based on an partly outdated model that she just happens to know? 😅
*I mean*, it doesn't seem particularly difficult to rewrite them just in the way of good angel, bad angel (stemming from her "conscience", "morality" or even just fancies or personality cores rather than some hot and sour potato).
Then of course you'll have other priorities.. but I just wanted to underline how this representing a good chunk of what folk psychology is, is exactly the problem. Putting aside the indirect effect of making it seems like psychology as a whole is play-pretend unscientific voodoo, those concepts and their friends have helped to legitimize truly deranged shit. No offense taken or meant, but if we just let them finally die in silence we'd be in a better society.
That was an interesting read, thanks for sharing. Now I'd say lots of "good" things can be perverted in many ways, so not too surprising in the end. Still I would only attribute some of these deranged things to Freud loosely. I'm not too deep in the field, but from my understanding the idea of Freud was to move away from "unscientific voodoo", by analysing and naming core principals of how the mind works, thus founding and advancing the field of psychoanalysis (even if a lot of his stuff turned out to be wrong and represents a very outdated view on sexuality and genders).
Of course the best place to discuss the impact on Freud on the field of psychoanalysis and society in general is the comment section of a pervy FMG game 😂. I'd like too deepen this, but for the sake of absolute clarity, I kinda need those shoulder angels and devils in their respective forms for the coming story to make sense, so this would really be a lot of work rewriting them. And I'm drowning in work already 😑. So guess they'll have to remain as they are for now...
The guy was the unscientific voodoo actually, going from the "simple" mockery of people trying to look into his claims to straightup faking his reports. It's true that back in those days you had even more metaphysical theories of the mind (and any kind of "talk therapy" is better than none I guess?), but he kinda managed to pull the rug from most other legitimate clinical research after captivating the attention of the public opinion with his immediately bold and fancy claims. A wound that still hasn't completely healed today.
Then I'm sure people aren't checking their mental health with a game (and of course we are far from any particular apologism here), but conversely.. this is also how such concepts still linger and persist into folk psychology isn't it?
By all means, I wish all the best to the shoulder angels.
Also I really loved "The Kiss of Muscle Growth (Sandy-Path)" by ScriptBoy. The whole sibling appeal is the energy that comes with muscle growth FMG overriding your logical brain's forbidden or taboo warnings. Just like the whole Devil Gina and Angel Greg thing you have going on in Gina's Gym. Anything similar to that one that you can remember?
Jade should still be cute though! Remember that she's the innocent, studious foil to the not so innocent Stella!
Your team is working with you well! Nice job on the Jade look! I really appreciate how you are going to extra mile to make every muscular evolution of the core group of girls look different and unique and not just carbon copy bulky amazons who have bodies that all look like clones of your generic female bodybuilder AI generation. I hope you do the same with Aline! This is basically how I thought Jade's "final form" more or less should look like. Smaller arms, but very "tight" and lean muscle on the arms. Torso is incredibly muscular and shredded but still less "hulky" than Stella or Gina. But large powerful legs meant for kicking since this entire time with Enzi and her time with Gina, she's been defined as a "kick chick" martial artist. Nice job not going overboard with her boobs as well. Her shoulders are a little too broad for me but the prompt looks close enough. Try to stay on course and keep her build "bottom heavy" overall. I still think a subplot over her training with Enzi to land the ultimate kick to satisfy both him and her grandfather would be awesome.
I just saw the new Jade Designs on Patreon.
I'm so happy you're actually taking my advice. It means a lot to me. Looks great in Pic #2 and Pic #3. Arms are about the right size. Not too bulky, shredded, lean, built for speed!
I recommend her "final form" in the end should be "bottom heavy", with moderately muscular arms that are quite smaller than Stella's or Ginas but with curvy thick powerful looking legs and solid core torso with shredded abs. Jade is a kicking machine after all and less of a powerlifter like Stella or Gina. I really like this design direction so far based off of pics number 2 and 3! Superb! I really really love it! You and your team have done a fantastic job Don.
Thanks a lot to Geeb81, sr34x2, sssritian and episode_growth 😁 Your comments have brightened my day! I'll work hard to deliver in the future too!!
Hey Don? Just curious but I know you mentioned you like some muscle growth stories/games with FMG and brother/sister siblings. Which ones were you talking about?
I admit to NOTHING!!! My heart is pure as the fresh snow!!!
But a FRIEND OF MINE could have MAYBE recommended some weird stuff like "Lil' Sister Got SUPER-SIZED" by Gorgon or "The Kiss of Muscle Growth (Sandy-Path)" by ScriptBoy. There may have been some more, but those came to mind first 😅 Not looking specially for sibling-stuff, but I take no offense in it if the story is good.
I checked them out. I really liked "The Kiss of Muscle Growth (Sandy-Path)."
Just saw the second boss and I love it. Huge fan of those games, lovely reference.
This update has already been pretty great but that just made it even better lmao. Great game so far, love it.
Great update! Lots to discover in this version with events popping up when you least expect them. It encourages exploration!
Good work!
best fmg game i ever played
just keep making Gina bigger！i like her
Love it, great idea and passing
i can't wait to see Stella becoming more aggressive in her approaches <3
[SPOILERS] i really feel like there should be an option to not give stella the potion cause her superiority complex just becomes too much after that, and it makes me not want to play the game. But aside from that this is a really good game and i actually really like the character and story.
also because i thought stella was being mean I decided not to take her to the streets of rage second boss but her dialog still played I dont know if thats a bug or not. (fyi it was my first time at the second boss)
You weren't supposed to like Stella's antics (although a lot of people strangely did😅expected some, but not this many...) But she gets a character arc in one of the next updates, which will push her story further. Maybe even giving Gina the option to take her down a peg or let the player choose a direction for her. But that's for later, next up is Jade/Xici.
Streets dialogue is a bug. Have to rework it, thanks for telling me.
[SPOILERS] (fyi this is just my opinion and you can do what ever you want with the future of your game, i am very excited to see where you take it.) BUT, ANTICS SHE ALMOST KILLED SOMEONE, and i could tell with every fiber of my being that giving her that potion was a bad idea, i spent a lot of time trying to find a way around giving her the potion, i though maybe i could just motivate her to work harder and stay positive. BUT NOOO, SHE SUCKS AT TRAINING COMPLAINS ABOUT IT AND I HAVE TO FIX IT, AND YES I KNOW IM JEALOUS ABOUT HER SURPASSING ME INSTANDLY. I WAS SOOO EXCITED TO SEE HOW I COULD USE THAT POTION TO MAKE GINA STRONGER. also i feel really bad for mike, he obviously worked really hard to get were he was and even though he does enjoy muscular girls it doesn't feel like this is how it should have gone. I think that adding a way to make stella grow naturally or with a small boost would be a lot better. (again i'd like to say that the game is great and i feel like these feel im having are a direct result of good characters and writing.)
[SPOILERS] Hehe! Love hearing feedback of any kind. I like to improve after all. And I find it charming that my characters can cause these kinds of emotions. (you are not alone in this 😏 My DMs on Discord were full of people wanting to discuss this)
But sorry, no way around her getting that potion.😅 I needed it for the story with Jade to happen after all, so Stella took one for the team by becoming this bitchy. No other girl would have gotten drunk on power like her and acted on her dominant side towards everyone she was jealous of.
But I'd say there was never any mortal danger for James. Just some scare tactics from our "little" prostitute, who can be very good at acting. Ok, she enjoyed it too 😆But she's not really evil! She wouldn't kill anyone!
Ngl, I got 3 "you pesky mothaf-" moments, mostly on this update's end, you better behave with Jade I swear to God
Jade kinda has the power to turn every scene into a damn wholesome cuddle-party. I remember trying to write some perverted scenes with the nuns using her and see how that turned out. So currently I worry more about the integrity of my villains than about Jade 😂
Then again, I'm a "pesky mothaf-", so let's see how this plays out. 😈
You just fed my fears 😖😖😖
Really anxious about your Jade muscle growth re-design considering the "preview files" i found in an older copy of your game's package contents, which kind of showed muscle Jade as basically looking more or less the same as Gina's body but with jade's face. I think the biggest issue I had was that it physically seemed to age up jade in mature ways that weren't really consistent with her "cute Sifu" type of vibe which I think you should still maintain at least appearance wise.
I'm still very much liking my idea for the new Jade to be primarily "leg focused" with a leaner upper body and also determined to someday land the ultimate kick which she will practice with Enzi a lot.
These old Files really are the bane of my existance 😅 If all goes by plan, you'll see Jade in all her new muscular glory in roughly 3 weeks.
We will try for a Focus on legs and core, while keeping shoulders and arms just slightly slimmer to keep a Part of her cute/girlish aesthetic. Of course her build has to look proportional to a degree, so still expect some mass on the upper body.
Yeah of course. Again, it's all about making each character look distinct. I mean look at Bayshore Academy one of your favorite FMG games of all time. Each character looks pretty different. Mia is generally smaller, shorter, and leaner relative to the other girls but still very muscular and has the most shredded body and relative to the Male MC she's still even with him in height and more muscular after her second growth spurt. Jessica is tall and has a large upper body but also has an enormous ass and huge legs. Elena is the biggest by far with both a huge upper and lower body and is very tall. Sophia has about the same muscle mass as Mia but huge boobs compared to everyone else. So yeah it pays off to have everyone look unique and distinct. I'm actually hoping that you will go the extra mile and make each muscular character look MORE distinct body-type wise compared to Bayshore academy. Fingers crossed!
Hello. Patreon stopped accepting all of my cards. Any other way to donate?
Not sure.. I think I could use Paypal too on other Patreons. I could look into it, but for now just enjoy for free. Will only become relevant on the next update then.
Thank you! Honestly there are only four games on Patreon where I almost don't care about benefits and just want them to have my money. Yours is one of them. And btw yours is the only one with AI art.
In that case I'm very lucky, cause my benefits are honestly terrible 😅Not like I don't have any lofty ideas, but I always end up rather working on the game directly than making anything special for patreon.
Seeing how the dev log is, I'm guessing 3 months per update
Pretty much was like this till now. But since the last update I'm no longer a Solo-Dev. 😁Let's see if this goes faster with a little team. Also next update is planned to be split into smaller portions, so hopefully next small update is in January
How do i help Stella to grow?
I should start making a FAQ 😅
You need the potion-set from Lucia, use it from the inventory and deliver the remaining potion to Stella after you'll ve done the Training Event with Stella and Jade.
Uhh, what about Jade then =)
That is on the next update..
Very excited about Gina's growth (especially her breasts) and the new artwork great job!
Hope Gina will be a very big girl in the future :)
Thanks. I think she will 😏 But she's been hogging the growth for quite a while. Let the other girls catch up a bit.
I agree and it's great!
I think as a dominant personality Gina should be bigger than the other girls
Why only on dominant? 😁 I love writing dominant Gina, but gentle giantess Gina shouldn't be smaller than the other girls.
Seconded!
Hi.. the item you need is the transfer potion. Did you use the potion set from your inventory? This should remove the basic set and leave only the transfer potion needed
Imagine if it was Xici that got the transfer potion and used it on the executioner...
Also I think you should introduce a new set of antagonists who are just straight up evil loose canons who are loyal to no one but themselves that Xixi might go to when she's desperate for more firepower. I'm thinking a couple of mad scientist black market doctors who are also a brother and sister to reflect a dark version of Gina and Greg. They use themselves as test subjects to inject illegal muscle growth drugs with monstrous side effects that mutate their bodies to look distorted, twisted, and purple and it warps their faces into looking demonic. These two could be the ones responsible for the creation of Xixi's executioner (who could then turn out to be just one of many manufactured executioner clones they created).
Even if you don't go with it fully, consider making some kind of a muscle duo of mad scientists who are just a dark "Chaotic Evil" reflection of Gina and Greg but ones that the Mafia turns to when they are desperate and you could build your own character profiles around that concept.
Well, you'll have to wait a bit for the next surprise 😏 Villain-Arc of Xicis lab ist about 2/3 written. Hope I'll get it out in January.
Some good ideas there, some might be in line with my plans, some might be written differently already. But I'm having a lot of fun writting Xicis and Jade currently.
Oh man. I really don't want Jade to turn to the dark side with XiXi. I was hoping Stella would slightly turn to the dark side and Gina would ask greg for an emergency Protein Shake to use on Jade. Wonder if the side effects of Xixi's lab will turn Jade evil.
I think in line with Xixi's drugs, you could make a case for them not necessarily bulking someone's arms up (because I want muscular jade to still look extremely distinct compared to Stella or Gina) but increasing muscle density a lot, in which jade's new look should reflect significantly a defined but compact upper body but a larger lower body with a focus on thicker more powerful legs for her kicking. Could even have a scene where Stella is talking smack to Jade about Stella still having much larger arms but Jade then mocks her through delivering a devastating kick that stops right in front of Stella's face but still knocks Stella over through sheer air pressure. That would be awesome.
Procedurally-generated art theft using a machine-learning algorithm as the thief tools. They all give off uncanny valley something fierce and look very same-y with other art theft using procedural generation as a medium to steal with.
the amount of ai art in this game hurts
How do you talk with Stella after the fight
I assume you mean the fight after the training scene with Jade?
If that's the case you need to find something to help start Stella's growth. Buy the potion-set from Lucia and use it in the inventory. Only the transfer potion remains, which you deliver to Stella at the brothel then
thanks man
No spoilers but the current update ending makes me want to murder a certain gremlin
Okay, actual last comment for the day but I can't recommend this Muscle Girl Fighter comic enough: https://novelpia.com/comic_episode/905
It's in Korean but just look at the girls. It literally has Characters with a "Gina" and "Stella" build, as well as two other characters I could see you going for with a Jade and Aline build. Perfect example of diverse but still sexy muscular female body types which keep things interesting.
Amazing job with Gina ripping out of her suit. Super sexy stuff. Would love to see more of that in the future. Must be hard to do with AI art as well.
Also the Light Novel translation shit with Akari is spot on as I'm definitely "that kind of person" when it comes to web novel translations on NoveUpdates.com eventually becoming anime haha.
I also want to ask, are there any tradeoffs to training alone versus training with Jade or Aline or Greg? Seems to me that there should be positives/negatives for training only gina vs training with friends. Or at least something different between stat gains for gina vs stat gains for the other girls to differentiate the choices.
No, currently training alone is inferior. There are plans to add some kind of extreme work-out that's impossible for anyone but Gina, that will make Solo-Training viable again, but maybe with a cooldown
Now that I think about it is Aline the tallest of the four girls?
I'm still torn on how I think Aline should look by the end. Clearly I want her build to have distinguishing characteristics that are different from Stella, since they are both blondes, and with the same bodybuilding frame would suffer from looking too similar. I think your new AI assistants can help by maybe introducing new character models that highlight each girl's full frame (including the legs) more so we can really see the difference in muscle mass distribution (bigger upper body vs bigger lower body, bulk vs shredded etc)
Also I really want Stella vs Jade+Aline to become hard core "frenemies." Passive aggressive hostile girl dialogue between Stella against the both of them. I'd love it.
Also I know you make a lot of comments on strong characters with lots of muscle but terrible form. It should be a running Joke for Stella, despite being the beefiest for now to have consistently terrible form since she's lazy when it comes to following Gina's instructions. So when Jade gets more muscular, she'll still be able to outlift Stella partially due to better form.
Stella might have a spiritual journey ahead of her. This will see some interactions with Aline and Akari, who might be less understanding than Gina.
After getting drained, I think a cool romance+sidequest option with Mike is Gina becoming his new teacher to get his strength back to what it was in terms of his early story baseline, since Mike is weaker than even base level Aline now. As part of the Mike romance arc, Gina can give him instructions on better technique, boss him around but also train with him to help him get back his strength, ending with a romance scene near the end.
I like that one. I'll write an event with that as a topic. (Not that Gina would know a lot more about technique than Mike.. but he would still love to have her around as a trainer)
how do you get Greg to talk about the recipe for the girls
He will talk about it once you have Stella at the gym and done a training session together with her.
how to get Aline to show up?
never mind found her
My Gina stuck on level 2 strength for quite a while. Did I do something wrong? And I play on my phone.
Hi, little button top-right with the !/? is your quest-log. Check there if all requirements are met. The green "?" are clickable to give hints on how to complete those quests.
If all requirements are checked growth should happen over the next night. If not, pls write me again and I`ll look into it.
Oh okay, I got it. It just feels bizarre compared to other fmg game where you grow immediately after the threshold is reached
Catherine tells me that Stella is angry. What I do?
Depends which dialogue.. she complains more than once. But Catherine is not required to progress currently. This is more a bit of foreshadowing for things to come.
What can he do to be able to talk to Stella?
She will be available again after the growth-events have all been handled. Post directly below should give hints on how to complete it.
Unless you haven't seen the Yuri-Scene yet. Then you need to buy the potions at Lucias and bring the remaining one to Stella to start the growth events.